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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Joel Fernandes' <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Alan Huang <mmpgouride@gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"rcu@vger.kernel.org" <rcu@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	"roman.gushchin@linux.dev" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
Subject: RE: Question about the barrier() in hlist_nulls_for_each_entry_rcu()
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 15:59:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <962bb2b940e64e7da7b71d11b307defc@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cc9b292c-99b1-bec9-ba8e-9c202b5835cd@joelfernandes.org>

....
> Right, it shouldn't need to cache. To Eric's point it might be risky to remove
> the barrier() and someone needs to explain that issue first (or IMO there needs
> to be another tangible reason like performance etc). Anyway, FWIW I wrote a
> simple program and I am not seeing the head->first cached with the pattern you
> shared above:
> 
> #include <stdlib.h>
> 
> #define READ_ONCE(x) (*(volatile typeof(x) *)&(x))
> #define barrier() __asm__ __volatile__("": : :"memory")
> 
> typedef struct list_head {
>      int first;
>      struct list_head *next;
> } list_head;
> 
> int main() {
>      list_head *head = (list_head *)malloc(sizeof(list_head));
>      head->first = 1;
>      head->next = 0;
> 
>      READ_ONCE(head->first);
>      barrier();
>      READ_ONCE(head->first);
> 
>      free(head);
>      return 0;
> }

You probably need to try harder to generate the error.
It probably has something to do code surrounding the
sk_nulls_for_each_rcu() in the ca065d0c^ version of udp.c.

That patch removes the retry loop - and probably breaks udp receive.
The issue is that sockets can be moved between the 'hash2' chains
(eg by connect()) without being freed.

	David

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-07-21 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-20 18:53 Question about the barrier() in hlist_nulls_for_each_entry_rcu() Alan Huang
2023-07-20 19:22 ` Eric Dumazet
2023-07-20 19:59   ` Alan Huang
2023-07-20 21:11     ` Eric Dumazet
2023-07-21 14:31       ` Alan Huang
2023-07-21 14:47         ` Eric Dumazet
2023-07-21 15:21           ` Alan Huang
2023-07-21 12:54     ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-21 14:27       ` Alan Huang
2023-07-21 15:21         ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-21 15:54           ` Alan Huang
2023-07-21 16:00             ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-21 15:59           ` David Laight [this message]
2023-07-21 17:14             ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-21 20:08           ` Alan Huang
2023-07-21 20:40             ` Alan Huang
2023-07-21 21:25               ` Alan Huang
2023-07-22 13:32               ` Alan Huang
2023-07-22 14:06                 ` David Laight
2023-07-22 15:00                   ` Alan Huang
2023-07-31 20:09         ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-08-03 13:40           ` Alan Huang
2023-08-03 13:53             ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-08-03 14:39               ` David Laight
2023-07-21 11:51 ` David Laight
2023-07-21 15:55   ` Alan Huang

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