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From: "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>
To: "John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 29/31] gpu: nova-core: Hopper/Blackwell: add FSP Chain of Trust boot path
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2026 13:08:47 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DFYJMH9S9RHC.34AA6HRKPMC6X@garyguo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f85c4bb9-2fb0-4dfc-9a07-992762df0822@nvidia.com>

On Sat Jan 24, 2026 at 1:42 AM GMT, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 1/23/26 5:38 PM, John Hubbard wrote:
>> On 1/21/26 8:35 AM, Gary Guo wrote:
>>> On Wed Dec 3, 2025 at 5:59 AM GMT, John Hubbard wrote:
>> ...
>>>> +        // SAFETY: fmc_full is a valid DmaObject with a contiguous allocation of size() bytes
>>>> +        // starting at start_ptr(). The slice is only used for signature extraction within this
>>>> +        // function scope while fsp_fw remains valid.
>>>> +        let fmc_full_data = unsafe {
>>>> +            core::slice::from_raw_parts(fsp_fw.fmc_full.start_ptr(), fsp_fw.fmc_full.size())
>>>> +        };
>>>
>>> The justification is week because it does not mention about the non-race nature
>>> of this, which need to be justified for a DMA allocation. If you use
>>> `CoherentAllocation::as_slice`, then this requirement would be obvious.
>>>
>>> For example:
>>>
>>>     // SAFETY: the dma buffer is not yet submitted too hardware and we are the
>>>     // unique owner at this point.
>>>     let fmc_full_data = unsafe { fsp_fw.fmc_full.as_slice(0, fsp_fw.fmc_full.size()) };
>>  
>> I see. OK, after a lot of fussing over the wording, I'm have come up
>> with this, which might be much too wordy? I'm not sure.
>> 
>>     // SAFETY: fmc_full, which contains the complete FMC ELF file, is never submitted to
>>     // hardware, so it is safe from hardware-software races. And we are the unique owner of
>>     // fsp_fw (and therefore of fsp_fw.fmc_full). (A separate buffer, fsp_fw.fmc_image, is what
>>     // gets submitted to the hardware).
>>  
>> 
>
> Oh, forget to mention that I also changed it to use .as_slice(), so:
>
>      // SAFETY: fmc_full, which contains the complete FMC ELF file, is never submitted to
>      // hardware, so it is safe from hardware-software races. And we are the unique owner of
>      // fsp_fw (and therefore of fsp_fw.fmc_full). (A separate buffer, fsp_fw.fmc_image, is what
>      // gets submitted to the hardware).
>      let fmc_full_data = unsafe { fsp_fw.fmc_full.as_slice(0, fsp_fw.fmc_full.size())? };

If they're never submitted to hardware, why are they dma objects?

Best,
Gary

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-26 13:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-03  5:58 [PATCH 00/31] gpu: nova-core: firmware: Hopper/Blackwell support John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:58 ` [PATCH 01/31] gpu: nova-core: print FB sizes, along with ranges John Hubbard
2025-12-03 19:35   ` Timur Tabi
2025-12-04  7:27     ` John Hubbard
2026-01-13 13:28   ` Gary Guo
2026-01-13 13:42     ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-01-14  2:23     ` John Hubbard
2026-01-23  3:09       ` John Hubbard
2026-01-23 18:04         ` Gary Guo
2025-12-03  5:58 ` [PATCH 02/31] gpu: nova-core: add FbRange.len() and use it in boot.rs John Hubbard
2026-01-13 13:29   ` Gary Guo
2025-12-03  5:58 ` [PATCH 03/31] gpu: nova-core: Hopper/Blackwell: basic GPU identification John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:58 ` [PATCH 04/31] nova-core: factor .fwsignature* selection into a new get_gsp_sigs_section() John Hubbard
2026-01-13 13:33   ` Gary Guo
2026-01-14  2:24     ` John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:58 ` [PATCH 05/31] gpu: nova-core: use GPU Architecture to simplify HAL selections John Hubbard
2025-12-03 19:38   ` Timur Tabi
2025-12-04  7:28     ` John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:58 ` [PATCH 06/31] gpu: nova-core: apply the one "use" item per line policy to commands.rs John Hubbard
2026-01-13 13:35   ` Gary Guo
2025-12-03  5:58 ` [PATCH 07/31] gpu: nova-core: set DMA mask width based on GPU architecture John Hubbard
2026-01-13 13:43   ` Gary Guo
2026-01-14  3:03     ` John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 08/31] gpu: nova-core: move firmware image parsing code to firmware.rs John Hubbard
2026-01-13 13:44   ` Gary Guo
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 09/31] gpu: nova-core: factor out a section_name_eq() function John Hubbard
2026-01-13 13:57   ` Gary Guo
2026-01-14  3:18     ` John Hubbard
2026-01-14 14:40       ` Gary Guo
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 10/31] gpu: nova-core: don't assume 64-bit firmware images John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 11/31] gpu: nova-core: add support for 32-bit " John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 12/31] gpu: nova-core: add auto-detection of 32-bit, 64-bit " John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 13/31] gpu: nova-core: Hopper/Blackwell: add FMC firmware image, in support of FSP John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 14/31] gpu: nova-core: Hopper/Blackwell: add FSP falcon engine stub John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 15/31] gpu: nova-core: Hopper/Blackwell: add FSP falcon EMEM operations John Hubbard
2025-12-03  6:04   ` Timur Tabi
2025-12-03  6:07     ` John Hubbard
2026-01-21 16:06   ` Gary Guo
2026-01-21 16:17     ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-01-23 23:48     ` John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 16/31] gpu: nova-core: Hopper/Blackwell: add FSP message infrastructure John Hubbard
2025-12-05 16:47   ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-03  2:15     ` John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 17/31] gpu: nova-core: Hopper/Blackwell: calculate reserved FB heap size John Hubbard
2025-12-03 20:48   ` Timur Tabi
2025-12-04  7:34     ` John Hubbard
2026-01-21 16:10       ` Gary Guo
2026-01-23 23:56         ` John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 18/31] gpu: nova-core: Hopper/Blackwell: add needs_large_reserved_mem() John Hubbard
2025-12-03 20:51   ` Timur Tabi
2025-12-04  7:36     ` John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 19/31] gpu: nova-core: Hopper/Blackwell: add FSP secure boot completion waiting John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 20/31] gpu: nova-core: Hopper/Blackwell: add FSP message structures John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 21/31] gpu: nova-core: Hopper/Blackwell: add FMC signature extraction John Hubbard
2025-12-03 15:45   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-12-04  7:55     ` John Hubbard
2026-01-21 16:15   ` Gary Guo
2026-01-24  0:45     ` John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 22/31] gpu: nova-core: Hopper/Blackwell: add FSP send/receive messaging John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 23/31] gpu: nova-core: Hopper/Blackwell: add FSP Chain of Trust boot John Hubbard
2025-12-05 17:15   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-12-08  6:00     ` John Hubbard
2025-12-06 21:36   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-12-08  6:09     ` John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 24/31] gpu: nova-core: Hopper/Blackwell: larger non-WPR heap John Hubbard
2026-01-21 16:18   ` Gary Guo
2026-01-24  1:50     ` John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 25/31] gpu: nova-core: Hopper/Blackwell: larger WPR2 (GSP) heap John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 26/31] gpu: nova-core: refactor SEC2 booter loading into run_booter() helper John Hubbard
2025-12-03 20:53   ` Timur Tabi
2025-12-04  7:37     ` John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 27/31] gpu: nova-core: Hopper/Blackwell: skip GFW boot waiting John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 28/31] gpu: nova-core: Hopper/Blackwell: add GSP lockdown release polling John Hubbard
2025-12-03 20:59   ` Timur Tabi
2025-12-04  7:49     ` John Hubbard
2026-01-21 16:20   ` Gary Guo
2026-01-24  1:10     ` John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 29/31] gpu: nova-core: Hopper/Blackwell: add FSP Chain of Trust boot path John Hubbard
2026-01-21 16:35   ` Gary Guo
2026-01-24  1:38     ` John Hubbard
2026-01-24  1:42       ` John Hubbard
2026-01-26 13:08         ` Gary Guo [this message]
2026-01-26 19:53           ` John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 30/31] gpu: nova-core: Hopper/Blackwell: new location for PCI config mirror John Hubbard
2025-12-03  5:59 ` [PATCH 31/31] gpu: nova-core: clarify the GPU firmware boot steps John Hubbard

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