From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pjt@google.com, evn@google.com,
jpoimboe@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, x86@kernel.org,
hpa@zytor.com, peterz@infradead.org,
pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com, kim.phillips@amd.com,
alexandre.chartre@oracle.com, daniel.sneddon@linux.intel.com,
corbet@lwn.net, bp@suse.de, linyujun809@huawei.com,
jmattson@google.com, "José Oliveira" <joseloliveira11@gmail.com>,
"Rodrigo Branco" <rodrigo@kernelhacking.com>,
"Alexandra Sandulescu" <aesa@google.com>,
stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] x86/speculation: Allow enabling STIBP with legacy IBRS
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 18:48:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y/ZVaBKwbWUbF7u+@zn.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACYkzJ4cSA5xFScgS=WTc6tPis-vUCtYkh3LyEr8EkXoDCm-uA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 09:16:21AM -0800, KP Singh wrote:
> Thanks for iterating. I think your commit description and rewrite
> omits a few key subtleties which I have tried to reinforce in both the
> commit log and the comments.
>
> Q: What does STIBP have to do with IBRS?
> A: Setting the IBRS bit implicitly enables STIBP / some form of cross
> thread protection.
That belongs in the docs, if you want to explain this properly.
> Q: Why does it work with eIBRS?
> A: Because we set the IBRS bit once and leave it set when using eIBRS
Also docs.
> I think this subtlety should be reinforced in the commit description
> and code comments so that we don't get it wrong again. Your commit
> does answer this one (thanks!)
Commit messages are fine when explaining *why* a change is being done.
What is even finer is when you put a lenghtier explanation in our
documentation so that people can actually find it. Finding text in
commit messages is harder...
> Q: Why does it not work with the way the kernel currently implements
> legacy IBRS?
> A: Because the kernel clears the bit on returning to user space.
From the commit message:
However, on return to userspace, the IBRS bit is cleared for performance
reasons. That leaves userspace threads vulnerable to cross-thread
predictions influence against which STIBP protects.
> The reason why I refactored this into a separate helper was to
> document the subtleties I mentioned above and anchor them to one place
> as the function is used in 2 places. But this is a maintainer's
> choice, so it's your call :)
The less code gets added in that thing, the better. Not yet another
helper pls.
> I do agree with Pawan that it's worth adding a pr_info about what the
> kernel is doing about STIBP.
STIBP status gets dumped through stibp_state().
--
Regards/Gruss,
Boris.
https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-22 17:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-21 18:49 [PATCH v2 1/2] x86/speculation: Allow enabling STIBP with legacy IBRS KP Singh
2023-02-21 18:49 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] Documentation/hw-vuln: Document the interaction between IBRS and STIBP KP Singh
2023-02-23 14:52 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-24 3:30 ` KP Singh
2023-02-26 1:42 ` KP Singh
2023-02-21 19:29 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] x86/speculation: Allow enabling STIBP with legacy IBRS Greg KH
2023-02-21 19:29 ` Greg KH
2023-02-21 19:35 ` KP Singh
2023-02-21 19:47 ` Greg KH
2023-02-21 19:57 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-21 20:09 ` Greg KH
2023-02-21 20:23 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-22 3:07 ` Pawan Gupta
2023-02-22 5:49 ` KP Singh
2023-02-22 8:25 ` Pawan Gupta
2023-02-22 12:32 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-22 13:56 ` David Laight
2023-02-22 12:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-22 17:16 ` KP Singh
2023-02-22 17:48 ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2023-02-22 19:41 ` KP Singh
2023-02-23 12:44 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-02-26 1:50 ` KP Singh
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