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From: William Breathitt Gray <vilhelm.gray@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
Cc: "Lars-Peter Clausen" <lars@metafoo.de>,
	"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	kernel@pengutronix.de,
	"Jonathan Cameron" <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Patrick Havelange" <patrick.havelange@essensium.com>,
	"Kamel Bouhara" <kamel.bouhara@bootlin.com>,
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	"Syed Nayyar Waris" <syednwaris@gmail.com>,
	"Oleksij Rempel" <linux@rempel-privat.de>,
	"Jarkko Nikula" <jarkko.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	"David Lechner" <david@lechnology.com>,
	"Fabrice Gasnier" <fabrice.gasnier@foss.st.com>,
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	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
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	"Ahmad Fatoum" <a.fatoum@pengutronix.de>,
	"Felipe Balbi (Intel)" <balbi@kernel.org>,
	"Raymond Tan" <raymond.tan@intel.com>,
	"Benjamin Gaignard" <benjamin.gaignard@st.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/23] counter: cleanups and device lifetime fixes
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 17:49:30 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YcwhGmOdP6QPpB3A@shinobu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211228173558.3702faa2@jic23-huawei>

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On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 05:35:58PM +0000, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 13:25:25 +0100
> Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de> wrote:
> 
> > On 12/27/21 10:45 AM, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > > [...]
> > >
> > >   - I wonder why counter is a bus and not a class device type. There is
> > >     no driver that would ever bind a counter device, is there? So
> > >     /sys/bus/counter/driver is always empty.
> > >  
> > There used to be a time when GKH said that we do not want new driver 
> > classes. And all new subsystems should use bus since bus is a superset 
> > of class. This restriction has been eased since then.
> > 
> > But it was around when the IIO subsystem was merged and since the 
> > counter subsystem originated from the IIO subsystem I assume it just 
> > copied this.
> > 
> 
> Yup. Discussion about this back then with one view being there
> should never have been class in the first place.
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/4B571DA4.6070603@cam.ac.uk/
> 
> For anyone who loves the history of these things...
> 
> FWIW I think Greg suggested IIO should be a bus because we were hanging
> a bunch of different types of device off a class and it was getting messy.
> Kay then gave some history on class vs bus and suggested no new
> subsystem should use class.
> 
> Ah well, opinions change over time!
> 
> Also interesting to see we were discussing a bridge to input all that
> time ago and it's still not gone beyond various prototypes (with
> exception of touch screens).
> 
> Jonathan

Yes this is the reason: Counter subsystem just followed the structure of
the IIO subsystem originally which is how it ended up as a bus; changing
it to a class now would break userspace expectations so that is why it
remains a bus still.

William Breathitt Gray

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      reply	other threads:[~2021-12-29  8:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-27  9:45 [PATCH v2 00/23] counter: cleanups and device lifetime fixes Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 01/23] counter: Use container_of instead of drvdata to track counter_device Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-28 17:14   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  6:38   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 02/23] counter: ftm-quaddec: Drop unused platform_set_drvdata() Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-28 17:37   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  6:42   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 03/23] counter: microchip-tcb-capture: " Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-28 17:38   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  6:44   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 04/23] counter: Provide a wrapper to access device private data Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-27 11:02   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-27 11:34     ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-12-27 11:52       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-27 12:28         ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-12-28 18:01   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  6:47   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 05/23] counter: 104-quad-8: Convert to counter_priv() wrapper Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-28 18:02   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29 11:11     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-29  7:27   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-29 11:15     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-29 22:40       ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 06/23] counter: interrupt-cnt: " Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-28 18:04   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  7:34   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 07/23] counter: microchip-tcb-capture: " Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-28 18:05   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  7:35   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 08/23] counter: intel-qep: " Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-28 18:06   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  7:35   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-29 12:43   ` Jarkko Nikula
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 09/23] counter: ftm-quaddec: " Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-28 18:07   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  7:36   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 10/23] counter: ti-eqep: " Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-28 18:07   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  7:45   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-29 11:19     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 11/23] counter: stm32-lptimer-cnt: " Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-28 18:08   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  7:48   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 12/23] counter: stm32-timer-cnt: " Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-28 18:08   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  7:48   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 13/23] counter: Provide alternative counter registration functions Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-27 12:16   ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-12-28 11:22     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-27 12:18   ` kernel test robot
2021-12-28 18:00   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29 11:27     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-29 12:07       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-29 13:49     ` Jarkko Nikula
2021-12-29 15:47       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-29  8:13   ` William Breathitt Gray
2022-01-06 10:53   ` Dan Carpenter
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 14/23] counter: Update documentation for new " Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-28 18:12   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  8:19     ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 15/23] counter: 104-quad-8: Convert to new counter registration Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-27 12:19   ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-12-28 11:06     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-28 18:17   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  8:24   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 16/23] counter: interrupt-cnt: " Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-27 10:59   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-27 11:21     ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-12-27 11:34       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-27 11:44         ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-12-27 21:09         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-28 18:18   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  8:27   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 17/23] counter: intel-qep: " Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-27 15:02   ` Jarkko Nikula
2021-12-28 10:56     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-29 12:42       ` Jarkko Nikula
2021-12-28 18:20   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  8:29   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 18/23] counter: ftm-quaddec: " Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-28 18:23   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  8:33   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 19/23] counter: microchip-tcb-capture: " Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-28 18:24   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  8:36   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 20/23] counter: stm32-timer-cnt: " Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-28 18:25   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  8:37   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 21/23] counter: stm32-lptimer-cnt: " Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-28 18:26   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  8:39   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 22/23] counter: ti-eqep: " Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-28 18:29   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  8:41   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-27  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 23/23] counter: remove old and now unused registration API Uwe Kleine-König
2021-12-28 18:31   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  8:43   ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-12-27 12:25 ` [PATCH v2 00/23] counter: cleanups and device lifetime fixes Lars-Peter Clausen
2021-12-28 17:35   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-29  8:49     ` William Breathitt Gray [this message]

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