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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
Cc: Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>, Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] workqueue: Unbind workers before sending them to exit()
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2022 06:35:27 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YuK6zzmlFJ376UeD@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xhsmhedy5ecdg.mognet@vschneid.remote.csb>

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 11:54:19AM +0100, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> On 28/07/22 01:13, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
> > Quick review before going to sleep.
> >
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 7:54 PM Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> @@ -1806,8 +1806,10 @@ static void worker_enter_idle(struct worker *worker)
> >>         /* idle_list is LIFO */
> >>         list_add(&worker->entry, &pool->idle_list);
> >>
> >> -       if (too_many_workers(pool) && !timer_pending(&pool->idle_timer))
> >> -               mod_timer(&pool->idle_timer, jiffies + IDLE_WORKER_TIMEOUT);
> >> +       if (too_many_workers(pool) && !delayed_work_pending(&pool->idle_reaper_work))
> >> +               mod_delayed_work(system_unbound_wq,
> >> +                                &pool->idle_reaper_work,
> >> +                                IDLE_WORKER_TIMEOUT);
> >
> > system_unbound_wq doesn't have a rescuer.
> >
> > A new workqueue with a rescuer needs to be created and used for
> > this purpose.
> >
> 
> Right, I think it makes sense for those work items to be attached to a
> WQ_MEM_RECLAIM workqueue. Should I add that as a workqueue-internal
> thing?

I don't understand why this would need MEM_RECLAIM when it isn't sitting in
the memory reclaim path. Nothing in mm side can wait on this.

> > Since WORKER_DIE is set, the worker can be possible freed now
> > if there is another source to wake it up.
> >
> 
> My understanding for having reap_worker() be "safe" to use outside of
> raw_spin_lock_irq(pool->lock) is that pool->idle_list is never accessed
> outside of the pool->lock, and wake_up_worker() only wakes a worker that
> is in that list. So with destroy_worker() detaching the worker from
> pool->idle_list under pool->lock, I'm not aware of a codepath other than
> reap_worker() that could wake it up.

There actually are spurious wakeups. We can't depend on there being no
wakeups than ours.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-28 16:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-27 11:53 [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] workqueue: destroy_worker() vs isolated CPUs Valentin Schneider
2022-07-27 11:53 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] workqueue: Unbind workers before sending them to exit() Valentin Schneider
2022-07-27 17:13   ` Lai Jiangshan
2022-07-28 10:54     ` Valentin Schneider
2022-07-28 16:35       ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2022-07-28 17:24         ` Valentin Schneider
2022-07-28 17:31           ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-29 10:12             ` Valentin Schneider
2022-07-27 11:53 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/2] DEBUG: workqueue: kworker spawner Valentin Schneider

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