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From: Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@gmail.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"bpf@vger.kernel.org" <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] x86/alternatives: Merge first and second step in text_poke_bp_batch
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 12:48:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z4jyEBf5WIvygWYh@krava> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c88cf8951a0d4f73901ba97a81ba3a12@AcuMS.aculab.com>

On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 02:38:42PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> From: Jiri Olsa
> > Sent: 14 January 2025 14:03
> > 
> > hi,
> > while checking on similar code for uprobes I was wondering if we
> > can merge first 2 steps of instruction update in text_poke_bp_batch
> > function.
> > 
> > Basically the first step now would be to write int3 byte together
> > with the rest of the bytes of the new instruction instead of doing
> > that separately. And the second step would be to overwrite int3
> > byte with first byte of the new instruction.
> > 
> > Would that work or do I miss some x86 detail that could lead to crash?
> 
> I suspect it will 'crash and burn'.
> 
> Consider what happens if there is a cache-line boundary in the
> middle of an instruction.
> (Actually an instruction fetch boundary will do.)
> 
> cpu0: reads the old instructions from the old cache line.
> cpu0: pipeline busy (or similar) so doesn't read the next cache line.
> cpu1: writes the new instructions.
> cpu0: reads the second cache line.
> 
> cpu0 now has a mix of the old and new instruction bytes.
> 
> Writing the int3 is safe - provided they don't return until
> all the patching is over.
> 
> But between writing the int3 (over the first opcode byte) and
> updating anything else I suspect you need something that does
> a complete synchronise between the cpu that discards any bytes
> in the decode pipeline as well as flushing the I-cache (etc).
> I suspect that requires an acked IPI.
> 
> Very long cpu stalls are easy to generate.
> Any read from PCIe will be slow (I've at fpga target that takes ~1us).
> You'd need to be unlucky to be patching an instruction while one
> was pending, but a DMA access might just be enough to cause grief.

ok, thanks for all the details,

jirka

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-16 11:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-14 14:02 [RFC] x86/alternatives: Merge first and second step in text_poke_bp_batch Jiri Olsa
2025-01-14 14:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-14 14:31   ` Jiri Olsa
2025-01-14 15:36     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-15 18:26       ` Jiri Olsa
2025-01-14 14:38 ` David Laight
2025-01-16 11:48   ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2025-01-16  5:57 ` Masami Hiramatsu

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