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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Raag Jadav <raag.jadav@intel.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Simona Vetter <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] Cleanup io.h
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 12:31:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8WFEC2-kBwSYFDX@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f6eb011b-40fb-409a-b2b2-a09d0e770bbd@app.fastmail.com>

On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 06:15:30PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2025, at 17:50, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 11:15:47AM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >> As you already found, removing an old indirect #include that is
> >> no longer needed usually leads to some files breaking. The more
> >> impactful your change is in terms of build speed, the more
> >> things break! I think in this case, removing linux/err.h and
> >> linux/bug.h made very little difference because they are very
> >> small files in terms of what else they include.
> >
> > While this is all true, removing unneeded inclusions rarely can lead to the
> > "extra work with a little gain". When there is a replacement to the low
> > level ones, it's also an improvement in my opinion and won't be harmful in
> > the future. But I agree, that the stuff is way too tangled already and requires
> > an enormous work to untangle it, even if doing it structurally.
> 
> The problem I see with prematurely applying small improvements like this
> one is that they always cause build regressions, at least if the change
> is any good. If we can find some more impactful changes like this one,
> we can group them together in a branch and test them a lot better before
> they even reach linux-next.
> 
> I mainly want to avoid people getting angry at Raag for repeatedly
> breaking their subsystems by pushing small patches one at a time.
> 
> > Do you have your scripts for the showed statistics being published somewhere?
> 
> I had a good set of scripts on an older machine and might still
> have some backups of that somewhere, but just hacked up something
> ad-hoc today beased on what I remembered from that time. Here
> are the snippets that you might find useful.

Thank you!

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-03 10:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-21  5:08 [PATCH v2 0/2] Cleanup io.h Raag Jadav
2025-02-21  5:08 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] io.h: drop unused headers Raag Jadav
2025-02-21  5:08 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] drm/draw: include bug.h Raag Jadav
2025-02-21  6:05   ` Greg KH
2025-02-21  9:49     ` Simona Vetter
2025-02-21 10:24       ` Raag Jadav
2025-02-21 10:15 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Cleanup io.h Arnd Bergmann
2025-02-21 11:26   ` Raag Jadav
2025-02-21 16:50   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-02-21 17:15     ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-03-03 10:31       ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2025-02-21 16:12 ` Andy Shevchenko

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