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From: "Gautham R. Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>
To: Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
Cc: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: skip the cache hot CPU in select_idle_cpu()
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 11:52:14 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZQFVFv4GcPOU+X7N@BLR-5CG11610CF.amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZP7SYu+gxlc/YjHu@chenyu5-mobl2>

On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 04:40:02PM +0800, Chen Yu wrote:
> Hi Aaron,
> 
> thanks for the review,
> 
> On 2023-09-11 at 15:26:29 +0800, Aaron Lu wrote:

[..snip..]

> > > @@ -6982,8 +6997,13 @@ static inline int find_idlest_cpu(struct sched_domain *sd, struct task_struct *p
> > >  static inline int __select_idle_cpu(int cpu, struct task_struct *p)
> > >  {
> > >  	if ((available_idle_cpu(cpu) || sched_idle_cpu(cpu)) &&
> > > -	    sched_cpu_cookie_match(cpu_rq(cpu), p))
> > > +	    sched_cpu_cookie_match(cpu_rq(cpu), p)) {
> > > +		if (sched_feat(SIS_CACHE) &&
> > > +		    sched_clock_cpu(cpu) < cpu_rq(cpu)->cache_hot_timeout)
> > > +			return -1;
> > > +
> > 
> > Maybe introduce a new function that also considers rq->cache_hot_timeout,
> > like available_idle_cpu_migrate() so that above and below logic can be
> > simplified a bit?
> > 
> 
> Yes, that would be simpler, I'll do in next version.
> 
> > I was thinking to simply add that rq->cache_hot_timeout check to
> > available_idle_cpu() but then a long sleeping task could be forced to
> > migrate if its prev_cpu happens to just deschedule a task that sets rq's
> > cache_hot_timeout. I guess that's why you chose to only change the idle
> > semantic in select_idle_cpu() but not in select_idle_sibling()?
> >
> 
> Yes, sort of. And the reason I did not put this cache hot check in available_idle_cpu()
> or idle_cpu() was mainly because these APIs are generic and could be invoked by select_idle_sibling().
> If the task fall asleep and woken up quickly, its previous idle CPU will also be skipped,
> thus no one could use this CPU within the cache hot period, including the cache-hot task
> itself.

This happens even with this patch right? It is possible for a task p1
whose avg sleep time is "t" to go to sleep which causes its CPU to go
idle. When it wakes up after a time t' < t, the logic above skips the
idle CPU because it is still cache-hot, despite the fact that it is
cache hot for p1!

Have you considered recording p1's identity in the
rq->cache_hot_sleeper so that in select_task_rq_fair(), we can simply
return the previous CPU if it is cache hot and the wakee is
rq->cache_hot_sleeper, thus avoiding the whole select_idle_sibling
scan.

> 
> thanks,
> Chenyu

--
Thanks and Regards
gautham.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-13  6:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-11  2:49 [RFC PATCH 0/2] Makes it easier for the wakee to choose previous CPU Chen Yu
2023-09-11  2:49 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] sched/fair: Record the average sleep time of a task Chen Yu
2023-09-11  2:50 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: skip the cache hot CPU in select_idle_cpu() Chen Yu
2023-09-11  7:26   ` Aaron Lu
2023-09-11  8:40     ` Chen Yu
2023-09-13  6:22       ` Gautham R. Shenoy [this message]
2023-09-13  7:25         ` Chen Yu
2023-09-14  7:06           ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2023-09-14 12:09             ` Chen Yu
2023-09-15 15:18               ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2023-09-19  9:01                 ` Chen Yu
2023-09-11  8:29   ` K Prateek Nayak
2023-09-11 10:19     ` Chen Yu
2023-09-12  3:05       ` K Prateek Nayak
2023-09-12 12:32         ` Chen Yu
2023-09-12 14:26           ` K Prateek Nayak
2023-09-13  2:57             ` Chen Yu
2023-09-14  4:13               ` K Prateek Nayak
2023-09-14 11:01                 ` Chen Yu
2023-09-15  3:21                   ` K Prateek Nayak
2023-09-12  9:39       ` Mike Galbraith
2023-09-12 14:51         ` Chen Yu
2023-09-12  6:32     ` Mike Galbraith
2023-09-11 15:26   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-09-11 15:43     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-09-12 11:53       ` Chen Yu
2023-09-12 14:06         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-09-12 14:14           ` Chen Yu
2023-09-12 15:18             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-09-13  3:02               ` Chen Yu
2023-09-20 12:34     ` Chen Yu
2023-09-14  5:30   ` K Prateek Nayak
2023-09-14 10:43     ` Chen Yu
2023-09-15  3:37       ` K Prateek Nayak

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