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From: "Jürgen Groß" <jgross@suse.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-edac@vger.kernel.org,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	James Clark <james.clark@linaro.org>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/6] x86/msr: Rename MSR access functions
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2026 15:57:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a8d14e6d-547b-47f5-bfdf-aa607bfe1b38@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aeYr0dMxDs7-2VzO@google.com>


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On 20.04.26 15:36, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2026, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2026 at 03:01:31PM +0200, Jürgen Groß wrote:
>>> On 20.04.26 14:33, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>> The only interesting question is what to do with the 'safe' aspect. The
>>>> instruction takes a fault, we do the extable, but rdmsr() above already
>>>> has a return value, so that can't be used.
>>>>
>>>> One option is to, like uaccess and the proposed overflow, is to use
>>>> labels like:
>>>>
>>>> 	val = rdmsr(msr, label);
>>>>
>>>> And then, even though the wrmsr*() functions have the return available,
>>>> do we want to be consistent and do:
>>>>
>>>> 	wrmsr(msr, val, label);
>>>> 	wrmsrns(msr, val, label);
>>>>
>>>> rather than be inconsistent and have them have a boolean return for
>>>> success.
>>>>
>>>> What am I missing?
>>>
>>> I like the idea to use a label, but this would result in the need to use
>>> macros instead of functions. So this is trading one aspect against another.
>>> I'm not sure which is the better one here.
>>>
>>> An alternative might be to switch rdmsr() to the interface used by rdmsr_safe(),
>>> i.e. let all the accessors return a bool for success/failure and use a pointer
>>> for the MSR value in rdmsr().
>>
>> Yes, either way around works. Perhaps that is 'better' because mostly we
>> don't care about the faults since we've checked the 'feature' earlier.
>>
>> Its just inconvenient to have return in argument crud, but whatever ;-)
> 
> Why not do both?  There are definitely flows where one is obviously more readable
> than the the other.  E.g. if the RDMSR is being fed right back into a WRMSR, the
> out-param version requires a local variable.  And it can be visually jarring if
> the surrounding code is a bunch of "val = xyz" expressions.

I looked through my search results regarding wrmsrq() and rdmsrq() use cases and
I couldn't find such an instance. But maybe I have overlooked it or you have
some patch pending using this pattern?

> On the other hand, the outparam with a 0/-errno return can be very useful too,
> e.g. when wrapping the RDMSR in a multi-expression if-statement:
> 
> 	if (rdmsrq_safe(MSR_IA32_CR_PAT, &host_pat) ||
> 	    (host_pat & GENMASK(2, 0)) != 6) {
> 
> As it avoids having to assign with '=' in the if-statement, and avoids having to
> define a label.
> 
> It would be trivial to add a wrapper around the label version, the hard part is
> just the naming :-)

Indeed, naming is hard.


Juergen

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      reply	other threads:[~2026-04-20 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-20  9:16 [PATCH RFC 0/6] x86/msr: Rename MSR access functions Juergen Gross
2026-04-20  9:16 ` [PATCH RFC 1/6] x86/msr: Rename msr_read() and msr_write() Juergen Gross
2026-04-20  9:16 ` [PATCH RFC 2/6] x86/msr: Create a new minimal set of local MSR access functions Juergen Gross
2026-04-20  9:16 ` [PATCH RFC 3/6] x86/msr: Create a new minimal set of inter-CPU " Juergen Gross
2026-04-20  9:16 ` [PATCH RFC 4/6] x86/msr: Rename the *_safe_regs[_on_cpu]() MSR functions Juergen Gross
2026-04-20  9:16 ` [PATCH RFC 5/6] x86/events: Switch core parts to use new MSR access functions Juergen Gross
2026-04-20  9:16 ` [PATCH RFC 6/6] x86/cpu/mce: Switch code " Juergen Gross
2026-04-20 11:35 ` [PATCH RFC 0/6] x86/msr: Rename " Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-20 11:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-20 11:51     ` Jürgen Groß
2026-04-20 13:44       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-20 14:04         ` Jürgen Groß
2026-04-20 15:34           ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-04-20 11:49   ` Jürgen Groß
2026-04-20 12:33     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-20 13:01       ` Jürgen Groß
2026-04-20 13:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-20 13:23           ` Jürgen Groß
2026-04-20 13:36           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-20 13:57             ` Jürgen Groß [this message]

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