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From: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
To: Abel Vesa <abel.vesa@linaro.org>
Cc: Aleksandrs Vinarskis <alex.vinarskis@gmail.com>,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <lumag@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	freedreno@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com,
	Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>,
	Abhinav Kumar <quic_abhinavk@quicinc.com>,
	Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>,
	Marijn Suijten <marijn.suijten@somainline.org>,
	David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Simona Vetter <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	laurentiu.tudor1@dell.com
Subject: Re: drm/msm/dp: Introduce link training per-segment for LTTPRs
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 10:03:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aBCH4oo7dbG8ajvP@hovoldconsulting.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aBCE3wSG2g5pp7jg@linaro.org>

On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 10:50:55AM +0300, Abel Vesa wrote:
> On 25-04-29 09:23:46, Johan Hovold wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 05:17:21PM +0300, Abel Vesa wrote:
> > > On 25-04-28 14:47:04, Johan Hovold wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 11:06:39AM +0200, Aleksandrs Vinarskis wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 at 09:45, Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org> wrote:

> > > > > > Does this mean that the incomplete LTTPR support in 6.15-rc1 broke
> > > > > > adapters or docks with retimers in transparent mode?

> > Ok, but my concern is if they may have worked in a default transparent
> > mode.
> 
> But if they are by default in transparent mode, doing the setup to
> transparent mode will not break it in any way.

It looks like it will, see below.

> > > X13s doesn't have LTTPRs on-board so when reading the caps, LTTPRs count
> > > would return 0 and none of the of the transparent/non-transparent setup
> > > would happen.
> > 
> > But this is the crux; does any off-board LTTPRs in transparent mode add
> > to the count or not? If they don't, how would you ever learn that there
> > are any LTTPRs? If they do, it seems we may have a problem here.
> 
> Count gets increased either way. It doesn't matter if they are in
> transparent mode or not.

Thanks for confirming. So then it seems we do have a problem as since
6.15-rc1 drm_dp_lttpr_init() will switch all LTTPRs to non-transparent
mode.

Johan

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-29  8:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-17  2:10 drm/msm/dp: Introduce link training per-segment for LTTPRs Aleksandrs Vinarskis
2025-04-17  2:10 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] drm/msm/dp: Fix support of LTTPR initialization Aleksandrs Vinarskis
2025-04-24 21:48   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-04-17  2:10 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] drm/msm/dp: Account for LTTPRs capabilities Aleksandrs Vinarskis
2025-04-25  6:53   ` Abel Vesa
2025-04-25  9:20   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-04-17  2:10 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] drm/msm/dp: Prepare for link training per-segment for LTTPRs Aleksandrs Vinarskis
2025-04-25  6:53   ` Abel Vesa
2025-04-25 19:05   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-04-17  2:10 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] drm/msm/dp: Introduce " Aleksandrs Vinarskis
2025-04-25 19:07   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-04-28 20:07   ` Rob Clark
2025-04-24 21:12 ` Rob Clark
2025-04-24 22:14   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-04-28  7:45 ` Johan Hovold
2025-04-28  9:06   ` Aleksandrs Vinarskis
2025-04-28 12:47     ` Johan Hovold
2025-04-28 14:17       ` Abel Vesa
2025-04-28 18:23         ` Aleksandrs Vinarskis
2025-04-29  6:52           ` Abel Vesa
2025-04-29  7:29             ` Aleksandrs Vinarskis
2025-04-29  7:23         ` Johan Hovold
2025-04-29  7:50           ` Abel Vesa
2025-04-29  8:03             ` Johan Hovold [this message]
2025-04-29 10:57               ` Aleksandrs Vinarskis
2025-04-29 11:31                 ` Johan Hovold
2025-04-29 13:07                 ` Dmitry Baryshkov

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