* [PATCH 0/1] sched: replace wq users and add WQ_PERCPU to alloc_workqueue() users
@ 2025-09-05 9:09 Marco Crivellari
2025-09-05 9:09 ` [PATCH 1/1] sched: replace use of system_unbound_wq with system_dfl_wq Marco Crivellari
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Marco Crivellari @ 2025-09-05 9:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel
Cc: Tejun Heo, Lai Jiangshan, Frederic Weisbecker,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior, Marco Crivellari, Michal Hocko,
Ingo Molnar, Peter Zijlstra, Juri Lelli, Vincent Guittot
Hi!
Below is a summary of a discussion about the Workqueue API and cpu isolation
considerations. Details and more information are available here:
"workqueue: Always use wq_select_unbound_cpu() for WORK_CPU_UNBOUND."
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250221112003.1dSuoGyc@linutronix.de/
=== Current situation: problems ===
Let's consider a nohz_full system with isolated CPUs: wq_unbound_cpumask is
set to the housekeeping CPUs, for !WQ_UNBOUND the local CPU is selected.
This leads to different scenarios if a work item is scheduled on an isolated
CPU where "delay" value is 0 or greater then 0:
schedule_delayed_work(, 0);
This will be handled by __queue_work() that will queue the work item on the
current local (isolated) CPU, while:
schedule_delayed_work(, 1);
Will move the timer on an housekeeping CPU, and schedule the work there.
Currently if a user enqueue a work item using schedule_delayed_work() the
used wq is "system_wq" (per-cpu wq) while queue_delayed_work() use
WORK_CPU_UNBOUND (used when a cpu is not specified). The same applies to
schedule_work() that is using system_wq and queue_work(), that makes use
again of WORK_CPU_UNBOUND.
This lack of consistentcy cannot be addressed without refactoring the API.
=== Plan and future plans ===
This patchset is the first stone on a refactoring needed in order to
address the points aforementioned; it will have a positive impact also
on the cpu isolation, in the long term, moving away percpu workqueue in
favor to an unbound model.
These are the main steps:
1) API refactoring (that this patch is introducing)
- Make more clear and uniform the system wq names, both per-cpu and
unbound. This to avoid any possible confusion on what should be
used.
- Introduction of WQ_PERCPU: this flag is the complement of WQ_UNBOUND,
introduced in this patchset and used on all the callers that are not
currently using WQ_UNBOUND.
WQ_UNBOUND will be removed in a future release cycle.
Most users don't need to be per-cpu, because they don't have
locality requirements, because of that, a next future step will be
make "unbound" the default behavior.
2) Check who really needs to be per-cpu
- Remove the WQ_PERCPU flag when is not strictly required.
3) Add a new API (prefer local cpu)
- There are users that don't require a local execution, like mentioned
above; despite that, local execution yeld to performance gain.
This new API will prefer the local execution, without requiring it.
=== Introduced Changes by this series ===
1) [P 1] Replace use of system_unbound_wq
system_unbound_wq is to be used when locality is not required.
Because of that, system_wq has been renamed in system_percpu_wq, and
system_unbound_wq has been renamed in system_dfl_wq.
=== For Maintainers ===
There are prerequisites for this series, already merged in the master branch.
The commits are:
128ea9f6ccfb6960293ae4212f4f97165e42222d ("workqueue: Add system_percpu_wq and
system_dfl_wq")
930c2ea566aff59e962c50b2421d5fcc3b98b8be ("workqueue: Add new WQ_PERCPU flag")
Thanks!
Marco Crivellari (1):
sched: replace use of system_unbound_wq with system_dfl_wq
kernel/sched/core.c | 4 ++--
kernel/sched/ext.c | 4 ++--
2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
--
2.51.0
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* [PATCH 1/1] sched: replace use of system_unbound_wq with system_dfl_wq
2025-09-05 9:09 [PATCH 0/1] sched: replace wq users and add WQ_PERCPU to alloc_workqueue() users Marco Crivellari
@ 2025-09-05 9:09 ` Marco Crivellari
2025-09-05 16:42 ` Tejun Heo
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Marco Crivellari @ 2025-09-05 9:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel
Cc: Tejun Heo, Lai Jiangshan, Frederic Weisbecker,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior, Marco Crivellari, Michal Hocko,
Ingo Molnar, Peter Zijlstra, Juri Lelli, Vincent Guittot
Currently if a user enqueue a work item using schedule_delayed_work() the
used wq is "system_wq" (per-cpu wq) while queue_delayed_work() use
WORK_CPU_UNBOUND (used when a cpu is not specified). The same applies to
schedule_work() that is using system_wq and queue_work(), that makes use
again of WORK_CPU_UNBOUND.
This lack of consistentcy cannot be addressed without refactoring the API.
system_unbound_wq should be the default workqueue so as not to enforce
locality constraints for random work whenever it's not required.
Adding system_dfl_wq to encourage its use when unbound work should be used.
queue_work() / queue_delayed_work() / mod_delayed_work() will now use the
new unbound wq: whether the user still use the old wq a warn will be
printed along with a wq redirect to the new one.
The old system_unbound_wq will be kept for a few release cycles.
Suggested-by: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Marco Crivellari <marco.crivellari@suse.com>
---
kernel/sched/core.c | 4 ++--
kernel/sched/ext.c | 4 ++--
2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
index c81cf642dba0..baa096e543f1 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/core.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
@@ -5772,7 +5772,7 @@ static void sched_tick_remote(struct work_struct *work)
os = atomic_fetch_add_unless(&twork->state, -1, TICK_SCHED_REMOTE_RUNNING);
WARN_ON_ONCE(os == TICK_SCHED_REMOTE_OFFLINE);
if (os == TICK_SCHED_REMOTE_RUNNING)
- queue_delayed_work(system_unbound_wq, dwork, HZ);
+ queue_delayed_work(system_dfl_wq, dwork, HZ);
}
static void sched_tick_start(int cpu)
@@ -5791,7 +5791,7 @@ static void sched_tick_start(int cpu)
if (os == TICK_SCHED_REMOTE_OFFLINE) {
twork->cpu = cpu;
INIT_DELAYED_WORK(&twork->work, sched_tick_remote);
- queue_delayed_work(system_unbound_wq, &twork->work, HZ);
+ queue_delayed_work(system_dfl_wq, &twork->work, HZ);
}
}
diff --git a/kernel/sched/ext.c b/kernel/sched/ext.c
index 66bcd40a28ca..b1b79143e391 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/ext.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/ext.c
@@ -3514,7 +3514,7 @@ static void scx_watchdog_workfn(struct work_struct *work)
cond_resched();
}
- queue_delayed_work(system_unbound_wq, to_delayed_work(work),
+ queue_delayed_work(system_dfl_wq, to_delayed_work(work),
scx_watchdog_timeout / 2);
}
@@ -5403,7 +5403,7 @@ static int scx_ops_enable(struct sched_ext_ops *ops, struct bpf_link *link)
WRITE_ONCE(scx_watchdog_timeout, timeout);
WRITE_ONCE(scx_watchdog_timestamp, jiffies);
- queue_delayed_work(system_unbound_wq, &scx_watchdog_work,
+ queue_delayed_work(system_dfl_wq, &scx_watchdog_work,
scx_watchdog_timeout / 2);
/*
--
2.51.0
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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] sched: replace use of system_unbound_wq with system_dfl_wq
2025-09-05 9:09 ` [PATCH 1/1] sched: replace use of system_unbound_wq with system_dfl_wq Marco Crivellari
@ 2025-09-05 16:42 ` Tejun Heo
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Tejun Heo @ 2025-09-05 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marco Crivellari
Cc: linux-kernel, Lai Jiangshan, Frederic Weisbecker,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior, Michal Hocko, Ingo Molnar,
Peter Zijlstra, Juri Lelli, Vincent Guittot
On Fri, Sep 05, 2025 at 11:09:28AM +0200, Marco Crivellari wrote:
> Currently if a user enqueue a work item using schedule_delayed_work() the
> used wq is "system_wq" (per-cpu wq) while queue_delayed_work() use
> WORK_CPU_UNBOUND (used when a cpu is not specified). The same applies to
> schedule_work() that is using system_wq and queue_work(), that makes use
> again of WORK_CPU_UNBOUND.
>
> This lack of consistentcy cannot be addressed without refactoring the API.
>
> system_unbound_wq should be the default workqueue so as not to enforce
> locality constraints for random work whenever it's not required.
>
> Adding system_dfl_wq to encourage its use when unbound work should be used.
>
> queue_work() / queue_delayed_work() / mod_delayed_work() will now use the
> new unbound wq: whether the user still use the old wq a warn will be
> printed along with a wq redirect to the new one.
>
> The old system_unbound_wq will be kept for a few release cycles.
>
> Suggested-by: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Marco Crivellari <marco.crivellari@suse.com>
Acked-by: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Thanks.
--
tejun
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