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From: "Moger, Babu" <bmoger@amd.com>
To: Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>,
	Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/6] x86/resctrl: Avoid searching tasklist during mongrp_reparent
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 17:34:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <acac43c0-d688-dcfe-51ce-b292f3c522d0@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240325172707.73966-1-peternewman@google.com>

Hi Peter,

On 3/25/2024 12:27 PM, Peter Newman wrote:
> Hi Reinette,
>
> I've been working with users of the recently-added mongroup rename
> operation[1] who have observed the impact of back-to-back operations on
> latency-sensitive, thread pool-based services. Because changing a
> resctrl group's CLOSID (or RMID) requires all task_structs in the system
> to be inspected with the tasklist_lock read-locked, a series of move
> operations can block out thread creation for long periods of time, as
> creating threads needs to write-lock the tasklist_lock.
>
> To avoid this issue, this series replaces the CLOSID and RMID values
> cached in the task_struct with a pointer to the task's rdtgroup, through
> which the current CLOSID and RMID can be obtained indirectly during a
> context switch. Updating a group's ID then only requires the current
> task to be switched back in on all CPUs. On server hosts with very large
> thread counts, this is much less disruptive than making thread creation
> globally unavailable. However, this is less desirable on CPU-isolated,
> realtime workloads, so I am interested in suggestions on how to reach a
> compromise for the two use cases.

Before going this route, have you thought about your original solution 
where CONTROL_MON groups sharing the same CLOSID?

[3] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CALPaoCj-zav4x6H3ffXo_O+RFan8Qb-uLy-DdtkaQTfuxY4a0w@mail.gmail.com

May be it is less disruptive than changing the context switch code.. Thoughts?

thanks
Babu

>
> Also note that the soft-ABMC[2] proposal is based on swapping the RMID
> values in mongroups when monitors are assigned to them, which will
> result in the same slowdown as was encountered with re-parenting
> monitoring groups.
>
> Using pointers to rdtgroups from the task_struct been used internally at
> Google for a few years to support an alternate CLOSID management
> technique[3], which was replaced by mongroup rename. Usage of this
> technique during production revealed an issue where threads in an
> exiting process become unreachable via for_each_process_thread() before
> destruction, but can still switch in and out. Consequently, an rmdir
> operation can fail to remove references to an rdtgroup before it frees
> it, causing the pointer to freed memory to be dereferenced after the
> structure is freed. This would result in invalid CLOSID/RMID values
> being written into MSRs, causing an exception. The workaround for this
> is to clear a task's rdtgroup pointer when it exits.
>
> As a benefit, pointers to rdtgroups are architecture-independent,
> resulting in __resctrl_sched_in() and more of the task assignment code
> becoming portable, simplifying the effort of supporting MPAM. Using a
> single pointer allows the task's current monitor and control groups to
> be determined atomically.
>
> Similar changes have been used internally on a kernel supporting MPAM.
> Upon request, I can provide the required changes to the MPAM-resctrl
> interface based on James Morse's latest MPAM snapshot[4] for reference.
>
> Thanks!
> -Peter
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20230419125015.693566-3-peternewman@google.com
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CALPaoChhKJiMAueFtgCTc7ffO++S5DJCySmxqf9ZDmhR9RQapw@mail.gmail.com
> [3] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CALPaoCj-zav4x6H3ffXo_O+RFan8Qb-uLy-DdtkaQTfuxY4a0w@mail.gmail.com
> [4] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/morse/linux.git/log/?h=mpam/snapshot/v6.7-rc2
>
> Peter Newman (6):
>    x86/resctrl: Move __resctrl_sched_in() out-of-line
>    x86/resctrl: Add hook for releasing task_struct references
>    x86/resctrl: Disallow mongroup rename on MPAM
>    x86/resctrl: Use rdtgroup pointer to indicate task membership
>    x86/resctrl: Abstract PQR_ASSOC from generic code
>    x86/resctrl: Don't search tasklist in mongroup rename
>
>   arch/x86/include/asm/resctrl.h            |  93 --------
>   arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/core.c        |  14 +-
>   arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/internal.h    |  17 ++
>   arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/pseudo_lock.c |   4 +-
>   arch/x86/kernel/cpu/resctrl/rdtgroup.c    | 279 +++++++++++++---------
>   arch/x86/kernel/process_32.c              |   2 +-
>   arch/x86/kernel/process_64.c              |   2 +-
>   include/linux/resctrl.h                   |  38 +++
>   include/linux/sched.h                     |   3 +-
>   kernel/exit.c                             |   3 +
>   10 files changed, 239 insertions(+), 216 deletions(-)
>
>
> base-commit: 4cece764965020c22cff7665b18a012006359095

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-04-11 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-25 17:27 [PATCH v1 0/6] x86/resctrl: Avoid searching tasklist during mongrp_reparent Peter Newman
2024-03-25 17:27 ` [PATCH v1 1/6] x86/resctrl: Move __resctrl_sched_in() out-of-line Peter Newman
2024-04-04 23:09   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-05 22:04     ` Peter Newman
2024-04-07 19:21       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-08 19:05         ` Peter Newman
2024-04-08 20:59           ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-08 21:41             ` Peter Newman
2024-04-09  3:53               ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-25 17:27 ` [PATCH v1 2/6] x86/resctrl: Add hook for releasing task_struct references Peter Newman
2024-04-04 23:10   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-25 17:27 ` [PATCH v1 3/6] x86/resctrl: Disallow mongroup rename on MPAM Peter Newman
2024-04-04 23:11   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-05 22:10     ` Peter Newman
2024-12-05 15:03       ` Peter Newman
2024-12-06  4:14         ` Reinette Chatre
2024-12-06 10:23           ` Peter Newman
2024-12-06 16:14             ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-25 17:27 ` [PATCH v1 4/6] x86/resctrl: Use rdtgroup pointer to indicate task membership Peter Newman
2024-04-04 23:15   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-25 17:27 ` [PATCH v1 5/6] x86/resctrl: Abstract PQR_ASSOC from generic code Peter Newman
2024-04-04 23:16   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-05 17:15   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-07 19:21   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-25 17:27 ` [PATCH v1 6/6] x86/resctrl: Don't search tasklist in mongroup rename Peter Newman
2024-04-04 23:18   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-04 23:09 ` [PATCH v1 0/6] x86/resctrl: Avoid searching tasklist during mongrp_reparent Reinette Chatre
2024-04-05 21:30   ` Peter Newman
2024-04-07 19:13     ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-11 22:34 ` Moger, Babu [this message]
2024-04-11 22:44   ` Peter Newman

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