From: Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/6] mm, drm/ttm, drm/xe: Avoid reclaim/eviction loops under fragmentation
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2026 23:28:08 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <afRH+KUNw9zap4sp@gsse-cloud1.jf.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260430160105.a3b74ec3bb316bbfbf8f9808@linux-foundation.org>
On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 04:01:05PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Apr 2026 12:18:03 -0700 Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com> wrote:
>
> > TTM allocations at higher orders can drive Xe into a pathological
> > reclaim loop when memory is fragmented:
> >
> > kswapd → shrinker → eviction → rebind (exec ioctl) → repeat
> >
> > In this state, reclaim is triggered despite substantial free memory,
> > but fails to produce contiguous higher-order pages. The Xe shrinker then
> > evicts active buffer objects, increasing faulting and rebind activity
> > and further feeding the loop. The result is high CPU overhead and poor
> > GPU forward progress.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > This series addresses the issue in two ways:
> >
> > TTM: Restrict direct reclaim to beneficial_order. Larger allocations
> > use __GFP_NORETRY to fail quickly rather than triggering reclaim.
> >
> > Xe: Introduce a heuristic in the shrinker to avoid eviction when
> > running under kswapd and the system appears memory-rich but
> > fragmented.
>
> Please cc everyone on all the patches? It's kind of annoying to have
> to hunt around to find out how these proposed changes will be used.
> Personal preference, anyway.
>
Will do - we discussed this in the past and thought we landed on Cc
everyone on the cover then individual patches but will blast everyone
going forward.
> AI review flagged a few possible issues:
> https://sashiko.dev/#/patchset/20260430191809.2142544-1-matthew.brost@intel.com
Idk, who authors sashiko but what make it really nice if you could reply
to it to talk things out.
Looking at replies...
- 'Could this global counter drift significantly'
this is looks right for multi-CPU which isn't really the target
here, but will adjust
- 'Additionally, does NR_FREE_PAGES implicitly include CMA pages?'
this is looks right, will adjust
- 'Can high_wmark_pages(zone) evaluate to zero during early boot'
theoretically possible (?), but non-issue IMO, certainly a GPU
shrinker which is current use case this is impossible but maybe
add a warn_on if high_wmark_pages(zone) returns zero
- 'Is this description accurate?'
I inverted the TTM kernel doc vs the code, will fix
Matt
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-01 6:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-30 19:18 [PATCH v4 0/6] mm, drm/ttm, drm/xe: Avoid reclaim/eviction loops under fragmentation Matthew Brost
2026-04-30 19:18 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] mm: Wire up order in shrink_control Matthew Brost
2026-04-30 19:18 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] mm: Introduce zone_maybe_fragmented_in_shrinker() Matthew Brost
2026-05-01 0:50 ` Santa, Carlos
2026-05-01 19:08 ` PATCH v4 0/6] mm, drm/ttm, drm/xe: Avoid reclaim/eviction loops under fragmentation Kenneth Crudup
2026-05-01 20:00 ` Matthew Brost
2026-05-01 20:05 ` Kenneth Crudup
2026-05-01 21:10 ` Matthew Brost
2026-05-01 22:33 ` Matthew Brost
2026-04-30 23:01 ` [PATCH " Andrew Morton
2026-05-01 6:28 ` Matthew Brost [this message]
2026-05-01 12:51 ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-01 1:42 ` Dave Chinner
2026-05-01 7:09 ` Matthew Brost
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