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From: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
To: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	corbet@lwn.net,  skhan@linuxfoundation.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] killswitch: add per-function short-circuit mitigation primitive
Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 04:41:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <agG_PZ3qcl6TwLnL@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <af5Z2IvtS5pVorSl@laps>

On Fri, May 08, 2026 at 05:47:04PM -0400, Sasha Levin wrote:
> On Fri, May 08, 2026 at 01:56:30PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Thu,  7 May 2026 03:05:45 -0400 Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > > When a (security) issue goes public, fleets stay exposed until a patched kernel
> > > is built, distributed, and rebooted into.
> > >
> > > For many such issues the simplest mitigation is to stop calling the buggy
> > > function. Killswitch provides that. An admin writes:
> > >
> > >     echo "engage af_alg_sendmsg -1" \
> > >         > /sys/kernel/security/killswitch/control
> >
> > It certainly sounds useful, but what would I know.  How do we hunt down
> > suitable operations people (aka "target audience") to find out how
> > useful this is to them?
>
> I'm not entierly sure here... If folks have suggestions on folks to loop in,
> that'll be great!

I work with these issues at Meta, and this approach would address a real
need we have.

While livepatch could theoretically solve this problem, it's less suited
for rapid mitigation for a couple of reasons:

1) Livepatch rollout is inherently slower due to the blast radius if a
   bug exists in the livepatch mechanism itself.

2) It's common to run hundreds of different kernel versions across a
   fleet. Since livepatch is kernel-specific, a single CVE suddenly
   requires building and deploying hundreds of individual livepatches—
   far less practical than a simple sysfs write.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-05-11 11:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-07  7:05 [PATCH] killswitch: add per-function short-circuit mitigation primitive Sasha Levin
2026-05-07 10:47 ` Greg KH
2026-05-07 13:40   ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-07 16:23     ` Greg KH
2026-05-07 15:21 ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-05-08 13:44   ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-08 15:40 ` Joshua Peisach
2026-05-08 15:48   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-05-08 16:13     ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-08 16:18       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-05-08 16:23         ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-08 16:26           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-05-08 16:54             ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-08 20:56 ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-08 21:47   ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-08 23:49     ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-09  0:15       ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-09  0:36         ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-11 11:41     ` Breno Leitao [this message]
2026-05-11 13:07       ` Michal Hocko
2026-05-11 13:39         ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-11 13:49           ` Michal Hocko
2026-05-11 13:56             ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-11 14:25               ` Michal Hocko
2026-05-11 15:55                 ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-11 16:10                   ` Michal Hocko
2026-05-11 16:45                     ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-11 17:10                       ` Michal Hocko
2026-05-11 18:09                         ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-11 13:40         ` Breno Leitao

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