From: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
To: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
corbet@lwn.net, skhan@linuxfoundation.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] killswitch: add per-function short-circuit mitigation primitive
Date: Mon, 11 May 2026 04:41:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <agG_PZ3qcl6TwLnL@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <af5Z2IvtS5pVorSl@laps>
On Fri, May 08, 2026 at 05:47:04PM -0400, Sasha Levin wrote:
> On Fri, May 08, 2026 at 01:56:30PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Thu, 7 May 2026 03:05:45 -0400 Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > > When a (security) issue goes public, fleets stay exposed until a patched kernel
> > > is built, distributed, and rebooted into.
> > >
> > > For many such issues the simplest mitigation is to stop calling the buggy
> > > function. Killswitch provides that. An admin writes:
> > >
> > > echo "engage af_alg_sendmsg -1" \
> > > > /sys/kernel/security/killswitch/control
> >
> > It certainly sounds useful, but what would I know. How do we hunt down
> > suitable operations people (aka "target audience") to find out how
> > useful this is to them?
>
> I'm not entierly sure here... If folks have suggestions on folks to loop in,
> that'll be great!
I work with these issues at Meta, and this approach would address a real
need we have.
While livepatch could theoretically solve this problem, it's less suited
for rapid mitigation for a couple of reasons:
1) Livepatch rollout is inherently slower due to the blast radius if a
bug exists in the livepatch mechanism itself.
2) It's common to run hundreds of different kernel versions across a
fleet. Since livepatch is kernel-specific, a single CVE suddenly
requires building and deploying hundreds of individual livepatches—
far less practical than a simple sysfs write.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-11 11:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-07 7:05 [PATCH] killswitch: add per-function short-circuit mitigation primitive Sasha Levin
2026-05-07 10:47 ` Greg KH
2026-05-07 13:40 ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-07 16:23 ` Greg KH
2026-05-07 15:21 ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-05-08 13:44 ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-08 15:40 ` Joshua Peisach
2026-05-08 15:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-05-08 16:13 ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-08 16:18 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-05-08 16:23 ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-08 16:26 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-05-08 16:54 ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-08 20:56 ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-08 21:47 ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-08 23:49 ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-09 0:15 ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-09 0:36 ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-11 11:41 ` Breno Leitao [this message]
2026-05-11 13:07 ` Michal Hocko
2026-05-11 13:39 ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-11 13:49 ` Michal Hocko
2026-05-11 13:56 ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-11 14:25 ` Michal Hocko
2026-05-11 15:55 ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-11 16:10 ` Michal Hocko
2026-05-11 16:45 ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-11 17:10 ` Michal Hocko
2026-05-11 18:09 ` Sasha Levin
2026-05-11 13:40 ` Breno Leitao
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