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From: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
To: Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>
Cc: Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	Adithya Jayachandran <ajayachandra@nvidia.com>,
	Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>, William Tu <witu@nvidia.com>,
	Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>,
	Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>, Vipin Sharma <vipinsh@google.com>,
	YiFei Zhu <zhuyifei@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 07/16] iommu/vt-d: Implement device and iommu preserve/unpreserve ops
Date: Tue, 19 May 2026 14:40:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <agx2RW_jujXbsiea@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <agtux6SrjpRYvMit@google.com>

On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 08:32:42PM +0000, Samiullah Khawaja wrote:
> On Fri, May 08, 2026 at 02:36:56AM +0000, Samiullah Khawaja wrote:
> > On Thu, May 07, 2026 at 02:25:14PM +0800, Baolu Lu wrote:
> > > On 4/28/26 01:56, Samiullah Khawaja wrote:
> > > > Add implementation of the device and iommu presevation in a separate
> > > > file. Also set the device and iommu preserve/unpreserve ops in the
> > > > struct iommu_ops.
> > > > 
> > > > During normal shutdown the iommu translation is disabled. Since the root
> > > > table is preserved during live update, it needs to be cleaned up and the
> > > > context entries of the unpreserved devices need to be cleared.
> > > 
> > > This is not related to preserve/unpreserve ops and could be made in a
> > > separated patch?
> > 
> > Agreed. I will move this stuff to a separate patch.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>
> > > > ---
> > > > MAINTAINERS                      |   1 +
> > > > drivers/iommu/intel/Makefile     |   1 +
> > > > drivers/iommu/intel/iommu.c      |  52 +++++++++++-
> > > > drivers/iommu/intel/iommu.h      |  28 +++++++
> > > > drivers/iommu/intel/liveupdate.c | 139 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > drivers/iommu/iommu.c            |  18 ++++
> > > > include/linux/iommu-liveupdate.h |  10 +++
> > > > include/linux/iommu.h            |  14 ++++
> > > > include/linux/kho/abi/iommu.h    |  18 ++++
> > > > 9 files changed, 277 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> > > > create mode 100644 drivers/iommu/intel/liveupdate.c
> > > > 
> 
> [snip]
> > > 
> > > > +{
> > > > +	struct context_entry *context;
> > > > +	int ret;
> > > > +	int i;
> > > > +
> > > > +	for (i = 0; i < ROOT_ENTRY_NR; i++) {
> > > > +		/*
> > > > +		 * Alloc the context tables now to make sure the iommu unit is
> > > > +		 * properly preserved. These might stay unused and wastes around
> > > > +		 * 32MB max in scalable mode.
> > > > +		 */
> > > 
> > > Instead of allocating and preserving context tables for all root entries
> > > (as noted, can waste up to 32MB), could we restrict this only to the
> > > entries possibly in use by active PCI devices?
> > 
> > I think the hotplug devices or VFs created through SR-IOV will be missed
> > that way. Lets say device A is preserved and the associated iommu is
> > also preserved. And then a new device B is hotplugged and preserved,
> > then the context table for that will be missed.
> 
> Ok I thought about it a little more and basically we have following
> things to consider when we preserve context tables,
> 
> - The devices can be hotplugged and preserved, so the context tables of
>   those need to be preserved if we don't allocate all of them first time
>   we preserve iommu, as done here.
> - New context tables can be added (after hotplug) for unpreserved
>   devices. And if we don't get another iommu preserve call after these
>   are added, those remain unpreserved, so during shutdown those entries
>   need to be removed from root table or preserved for simplicity.
> 
> To solve this we can,
> 
> 1. Either preserve the new context table when it is added for a preserved
>   iommu. This can be done in iommu_context_addr(). This is simpler and
>   no tracking needed.
> 
> 2. Or track the preserved context tables using a bitmap and then preserve
>   them incremently whenever a device is preserved. On shutdown during
>   cleanup, we can clear the entries for unpreserved context tables from
>   root table.
> 
> I am inclined towards second option. WDYT?

Thinking out loud here, I agree that shifting away from the 32MB 
pre-allocation is the right direction. I'm wondering if we can avoid the
overhead of introducing a new tracking bitmap (Option 2) altogether?

Since the IOMMU serialization is a strict dependency for device tracking,
could we move the context table preservation directly into the device 
level op: intel_iommu_preserve_device()?

Whenever a specific device is preserved on-demand:

1. It queries the parent IOMMU to fetch the allocated context table 
   backing its info->bus.

2. It calls iommu_preserve_page(context) for that table. Because KHO's
   tracking handles duplicates, this should be fine if multiple devices
   reside on the same bus...

Regarding Scalable Mode, we could just need a simple check in that path:


/* intel_iommu_preserve_device */
/* Preserve the primary/lower context table backing this bus */
context = iommu_context_addr(info->iommu, info->bus, 0, 0);
if (context)
	iommu_preserve_page(context);

/* If scalable mode is active, preserve the upper context table as well */
if (sm_supported(info->iommu)) {
	context = iommu_context_addr(info->iommu, info->bus, 0x80, 0);
	if (context)
		iommu_preserve_page(context);
}

WDYT?

> 
> I think we will have to do similar stuff for PASID also down the road to
> preserve pasid_tables in PASID directory.
> > 
> > Since we don't track the context_tables that are preserved, there is no
> > way to incremently preserve the new-ones. Let me look into the behaviour
> > of KHO, maybe we can make the preserve call idempotent and do these
> > incrementally.
> > > 
> > > > +		spin_lock(&iommu->lock);
> > > > +		context = iommu_context_addr(iommu, i, 0, 1);
> > > > +		spin_unlock(&iommu->lock);
> > > > +		if (!context) {
> > > > +			ret = -ENOMEM;
> > > > +			goto error;
> > > > +		}
> 
[snip]

Thanks,
Praan

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-19 14:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-27 17:56 [PATCH v2 00/16] iommu: Add live update state preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] liveupdate: luo_file: Add internal APIs for file preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 11:40   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 19:08     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] iommu: Implement IOMMU Live update FLB callbacks Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-01 21:45   ` David Matlack
2026-05-18 11:52     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 14:10       ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-05-18 15:08         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 12:33     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 17:20       ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 17:32         ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 17:06     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] iommu: Implement IOMMU domain preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-01 22:08   ` David Matlack
2026-05-04 18:33     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 13:13   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 18:55     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 21:36       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] iommu: Implement device and IOMMU HW preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-01 22:42   ` David Matlack
2026-05-04 19:06     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07  2:07   ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-07 18:47     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 14:01       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 18:33         ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 13:55   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 18:44     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] iommu/pages: Add APIs to preserve/unpreserve/restore iommu pages Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 14:23   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-18 17:22     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] iommupt: Implement preserve/unpreserve/restore callbacks Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07  2:55   ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-07 18:40     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-19 13:15   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-19 17:14     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] iommu/vt-d: Implement device and iommu preserve/unpreserve ops Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07  6:25   ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-08  2:36     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-18 20:32       ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-19 14:40         ` Pranjal Shrivastava [this message]
2026-05-19 18:26           ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] iommu: Add APIs to get iommu and device preserved state Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-19 15:52   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-20 17:24     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] iommu/vt-d: Restore IOMMU state and reclaimed domain ids Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07  9:05   ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-07 17:35     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-19 21:46   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-20 18:02     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-20 19:59     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] iommu: Restore and reattach preserved domains to devices Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-07 13:54   ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-07 16:52     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] iommu/vt-d: preserve PASID table of preserved device Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-08  6:05   ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-11 18:45     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-12 11:32       ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-19 22:35   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-20 18:13     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] iommufd: Implement ioctl to mark HWPT for preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-19 23:05   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-20 19:50     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] iommufd: Persist iommu hardware pagetables for live update Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-20  0:00   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-20 19:40     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] iommufd: Add APIs to preserve/unpreserve a vfio cdev Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-20  0:46   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] vfio/pci: Preserve the iommufd state of the " Samiullah Khawaja
2026-05-20  0:57   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-20 19:54     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-04-27 17:56 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] iommufd/selftest: Add test to verify iommufd preservation Samiullah Khawaja

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