From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
Z qiang <qiang.zhang1211@gmail.com>,
qiang.zhang@linux.dev, Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>, RCU <rcu@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Saravana Kannan <saravanak@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -next v1 01/12] rcutorture: Fully test lazy RCU
Date: Tue, 19 May 2026 18:04:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <agyKKNF52K6kq7Cs@milan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <003e94b0-d562-4cc1-a0be-db68e1969229@paulmck-laptop>
On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 05:38:48PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 05:36:08PM +0200, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> > On Sun, May 17, 2026 at 11:30:14AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Sun, May 17, 2026 at 02:40:42PM +0200, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> > > > On Thu, May 14, 2026 at 09:33:10PM +0800, Z qiang wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currently, rcutorture bypasses lazy RCU by using call_rcu_hurry().
> > > > > > This works, avoiding the dreaded rtort_pipe_count WARN(), but fails to
> > > > > > fully test lazy RCU. The rtort_pipe_count WARN() splats because lazy RCU
> > > > > > could delay the start of an RCU grace period for a full stutter period,
> > > > > > which defaults to only three seconds.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This commit therefore reverts the call_rcu_hurry() instances
> > > > > > back to call_rcu(), but, in kernels built with CONFIG_RCU_LAZY=y,
> > > > > > queues a workqueue handler just before the call to stutter_wait() in
> > > > > > rcu_torture_writer(). This workqueue handler invokes rcu_barrier(),
> > > > > > which motivates any lingering lazy callbacks, thus avoiding the splat.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Questions for review:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Should we avoid queueing work for RCU implementations not
> > > > > > supporting lazy callbacks?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello, Paul
> > > > >
> > > > > maybe we can do this:
> > > > >
> > > > > rcu_ops = {
> > > > > ...
> > > > > .support_lazy = IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_RCU_LAZY),
> > > > > };
> > > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > if (cur_ops->support_lazy )
> > > > > queue_work(..., &lazy_work);
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. Should we avoid queueing work in kernels built with
> > > > > > CONFIG_RCU_LAZY=y, but that were not booted with the
> > > > > > rcutree.enable_rcu_lazy kernel boot parameter set? (Note that
> > > > > > this requires some ugliness to access this parameter, and must
> > > > > > also handle Tiny RCU.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3. Does the rcu_torture_ops structure need a ->call_hurry() field,
> > > > > > and if so, why? If not, why not?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 4. Your additional questions here!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Reported-by: Saravana Kannan <saravanak@kernel.org>
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Uladzislau Rezki (Sony) <urezki@gmail.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c | 21 ++++++++++++++++++---
> > > > > > 1 file changed, 18 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c b/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c
> > > > > > index 5f2848b828dc..91ba3160ba6a 100644
> > > > > > --- a/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c
> > > > > > +++ b/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c
> > > > > > @@ -572,7 +572,7 @@ static unsigned long rcu_no_completed(void)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > static void rcu_torture_deferred_free(struct rcu_torture *p)
> > > > > > {
> > > > > > - call_rcu_hurry(&p->rtort_rcu, rcu_torture_cb);
> > > > > > + call_rcu(&p->rtort_rcu, rcu_torture_cb);
> > > > > > }
> > > > > >
> > > > > > static void rcu_sync_torture_init(void)
> > > > > > @@ -619,7 +619,7 @@ static struct rcu_torture_ops rcu_ops = {
> > > > > > .poll_gp_state_exp = poll_state_synchronize_rcu,
> > > > > > .cond_sync_exp = cond_synchronize_rcu_expedited,
> > > > > > .cond_sync_exp_full = cond_synchronize_rcu_expedited_full,
> > > > > > - .call = call_rcu_hurry,
> > > > > > + .call = call_rcu,
> > > > > > .cb_barrier = rcu_barrier,
> > > > > > .fqs = rcu_force_quiescent_state,
> > > > > > .gp_kthread_dbg = show_rcu_gp_kthreads,
> > > > > > @@ -1145,7 +1145,7 @@ static void rcu_tasks_torture_deferred_free(struct rcu_torture *p)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > static void synchronize_rcu_mult_test(void)
> > > > > > {
> > > > > > - synchronize_rcu_mult(call_rcu_tasks, call_rcu_hurry);
> > > > > > + synchronize_rcu_mult(call_rcu_tasks, call_rcu);
> > > > > > }
> > > > > >
> > > > > > static struct rcu_torture_ops tasks_ops = {
> > > > > > @@ -1631,6 +1631,17 @@ static void do_rtws_sync(struct torture_random_state *trsp, void (*sync)(void))
> > > > > > cpus_read_unlock();
> > > > > > }
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +/*
> > > > > > + * Do an rcu_barrier() to motivate lazy callbacks during a stutter
> > > > > > + * pause. Without this, we can get false-positives rtort_pipe_count
> > > > > > + * splats.
> > > > > > + */
> > > > > > +static void rcu_torture_writer_work(struct work_struct *work)
> > > > > > +{
> > > > > > + if (cur_ops->cb_barrier)
> > > > > > + cur_ops->cb_barrier();
> > > > > > +}
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > /*
> > > > > > * RCU torture writer kthread. Repeatedly substitutes a new structure
> > > > > > * for that pointed to by rcu_torture_current, freeing the old structure
> > > > > > @@ -1651,6 +1662,7 @@ rcu_torture_writer(void *arg)
> > > > > > int i;
> > > > > > int idx;
> > > > > > unsigned long j;
> > > > > > + struct work_struct lazy_work;
> > > > > > int oldnice = task_nice(current);
> > > > > > struct rcu_gp_oldstate *rgo = NULL;
> > > > > > int rgo_size = 0;
> > > > > > @@ -1667,6 +1679,7 @@ rcu_torture_writer(void *arg)
> > > > > > stallsdone += (stall_cpu_holdoff + stall_gp_kthread + stall_cpu + 60) *
> > > > > > HZ * (stall_cpu_repeat + 1);
> > > > > > VERBOSE_TOROUT_STRING("rcu_torture_writer task started");
> > > > > > + INIT_WORK_ONSTACK(&lazy_work, rcu_torture_writer_work);
> > > > > > if (!can_expedite)
> > > > > > pr_alert("%s" TORTURE_FLAG
> > > > > > " GP expediting controlled from boot/sysfs for %s.\n",
> > > > > > @@ -1895,6 +1908,8 @@ rcu_torture_writer(void *arg)
> > > > > > !rcu_gp_is_normal();
> > > > > > }
> > > > > > rcu_torture_writer_state = RTWS_STUTTER;
> > > > > > + if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_RCU_LAZY))
> > > > > > + queue_work(system_percpu_wq, &lazy_work);
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > When the task ends, the lazy_work should be cancel and destroy:
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c b/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c
> > > > > index f593f8b794dd..5adf537ab410 100644
> > > > > --- a/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c
> > > > > +++ b/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c
> > > > > @@ -1682,7 +1682,6 @@ rcu_torture_writer(void *arg)
> > > > > stallsdone += (stall_cpu_holdoff + stall_gp_kthread + stall_cpu + 60) *
> > > > > HZ * (stall_cpu_repeat + 1);
> > > > > VERBOSE_TOROUT_STRING("rcu_torture_writer task started");
> > > > > - INIT_WORK_ONSTACK(&lazy_work, rcu_torture_writer_work);
> > > > > if (!can_expedite)
> > > > > pr_alert("%s" TORTURE_FLAG
> > > > > " GP expediting controlled from boot/sysfs for %s.\n",
> > > > > @@ -1719,6 +1718,8 @@ rcu_torture_writer(void *arg)
> > > > > pr_alert("%s" TORTURE_FLAG " Waited %lu jiffies for boot to complete.\n",
> > > > > torture_type, jiffies - j);
> > > > >
> > > > > + INIT_WORK_ONSTACK(&lazy_work, rcu_torture_writer_work);
> > > > > +
> > > > > do {
> > > > > rcu_torture_writer_state = RTWS_FIXED_DELAY;
> > > > > torture_hrtimeout_us(500, 1000, &rand);
> > > > > @@ -1943,6 +1944,9 @@ rcu_torture_writer(void *arg)
> > > > > pr_alert("%s" TORTURE_FLAG
> > > > > " Dynamic grace-period expediting was disabled.\n",
> > > > > torture_type);
> > > > > + if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_RCU_LAZY))
> > > > > + cancel_work_sync(&lazy_work);
> > > > > + destroy_work_on_stack(&lazy_work);
> > > > > kfree(ulo);
> > > > > kfree(rgo);
> > > > > rcu_torture_writer_state = RTWS_STOPPING;
> > > > >
> > > > I agree, we seem miss destroying the work via destroy_work_on_stack()
> > > > and "sync" the lazy_work work via cancel_work_sync().
> > > >
> > > > Paul, any thoughts?
> > >
> > > Good eyes!!! I will take a closer look tomorrow.
> > >
> > > In the meantime, one question... Do we want to test for your new
> > > ->support_lazy instead of IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_RCU_LAZY) for that
> > > cancel_work_sync() and destroy_work_on_stack()? If we really need
> > > IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_RCU_LAZY), could you please suggest a comment giving
> > > the reasoning?
> > >
> > To me IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_RCU_LAZY) is enough :) I am not sure we really
> > need ->support_lazy flag.
>
> Good point, given that the queue_work() is also guarded by that same
> IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_RCU_LAZY).
>
> How does the patch below, based on the patch I sent initially, look?
>
> I can fold it in and resend, or you can do so, your choice.
>
> Thanx, Paul
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> commit 68284a54b40f4fb1a6595fb9263aae47a56f20bb
> Author: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
> Date: Mon May 18 17:36:10 2026 -0700
>
> squash! rcutorture: Fully test lazy RCU
>
> [ paulmck: Apply Z qiang feedback. ]
>
> Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
>
> diff --git a/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c b/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c
> index e1b4f4dbbb5819..878706beea01cd 100644
> --- a/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c
> +++ b/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c
> @@ -1682,7 +1682,6 @@ rcu_torture_writer(void *arg)
> stallsdone += (stall_cpu_holdoff + stall_gp_kthread + stall_cpu + 60) *
> HZ * (stall_cpu_repeat + 1);
> VERBOSE_TOROUT_STRING("rcu_torture_writer task started");
> - INIT_WORK_ONSTACK(&lazy_work, rcu_torture_writer_work);
> if (!can_expedite)
> pr_alert("%s" TORTURE_FLAG
> " GP expediting controlled from boot/sysfs for %s.\n",
> @@ -1719,6 +1718,8 @@ rcu_torture_writer(void *arg)
> pr_alert("%s" TORTURE_FLAG " Waited %lu jiffies for boot to complete.\n",
> torture_type, jiffies - j);
>
> + if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_RCU_LAZY))
> + INIT_WORK_ONSTACK(&lazy_work, rcu_torture_writer_work);
> do {
> rcu_torture_writer_state = RTWS_FIXED_DELAY;
> torture_hrtimeout_us(500, 1000, &rand);
> @@ -1943,6 +1944,10 @@ rcu_torture_writer(void *arg)
> pr_alert("%s" TORTURE_FLAG
> " Dynamic grace-period expediting was disabled.\n",
> torture_type);
> + if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_RCU_LAZY)) {
> + cancel_work_sync(&lazy_work);
> + destroy_work_on_stack(&lazy_work);
> + }
> kfree(ulo);
> kfree(rgo);
> rcu_torture_writer_state = RTWS_STOPPING;
>
I will fold it on my own, Paul!
--
Uladzislau Rezki
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2026-05-11 17:54 ` [PATCH -next v1 01/12] rcutorture: Fully test lazy RCU Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2026-05-14 13:33 ` Z qiang
2026-05-17 12:40 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-05-17 18:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-05-18 15:36 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-05-19 0:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-05-19 16:04 ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]
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2026-05-11 17:54 ` [PATCH -next v1 04/12] torture: Allow "norm" abbreviation for "normal" Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2026-05-11 17:54 ` [PATCH -next v1 05/12] srcu: Don't queue workqueue handlers to never-online CPUs Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2026-05-13 10:38 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-05-17 12:47 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-05-17 18:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-05-17 19:11 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2026-05-18 16:13 ` Boqun Feng
2026-05-18 17:05 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-05-18 19:30 ` Boqun Feng
2026-05-19 13:19 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-05-19 4:52 ` Jiri Slaby
2026-05-11 17:54 ` [PATCH -next v1 06/12] srcu: Fix kerneldoc header comment typo in srcu_down_read_fast() Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2026-05-11 17:54 ` [PATCH -next v1 07/12] checkpatch: Undeprecate rcu_read_lock_trace() and rcu_read_unlock_trace() Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2026-05-11 17:54 ` [PATCH -next v1 08/12] rcu: Simplify rcu_do_batch() by applying clamp() Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
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2026-05-11 17:54 ` [PATCH -next v1 11/12] rcu: Latch normal synchronize_rcu() path on flood Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
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