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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 27/37] mm: use __GFP_ZERO in vma_alloc_anon_folio_pmd
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2026 13:32:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aia2G06-ZjsTSD2u@lucifer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2ee827fed4765a155d2b56bb0e13d7ee5fc6dce8.1780906288.git.mst@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jun 08, 2026 at 04:39:18AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> Convert vma_alloc_anon_folio_pmd() to pass __GFP_ZERO instead of
> zeroing at the callsite. post_alloc_hook uses the fault address
> passed through vma_alloc_folio for cache-friendly zeroing.
>
> Note: before this series, replacing folio_zero_user() with
> __GFP_ZERO was unsafe on cache-aliasing architectures because
> __GFP_ZERO uses clear_page() without a dcache flush. With this
> series, it is safe if the caller passes a valid user address
> (not USER_ADDR_NONE) to vma_alloc_folio() etc., which delivers
> it to post_alloc_hook() for the dcache flush via
> folio_zero_user(). It is only unsafe if USER_ADDR_NONE is passed.
>
> Note: with __GFP_ZERO, the folio is zeroed before
> mem_cgroup_charge().  If the charge fails, the zeroing work is
> wasted.  Previously zeroing was done after a successful charge.
> This is inherent to moving zeroing into the allocator.
> Charge failures are rare (only at cgroup limits).
>
> Use folio_put_zeroed() on charge failure so the zeroed hint
> propagates to the buddy allocator, avoiding redundant re-zeroing
> on the next allocation attempt.

Again, is this worth it?...

Every bit of code added increases risks of bugs, maintenance burden,
etc. let's just not do stuff because we can.

>
> Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> Reviewed-by: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
> Assisted-by: Claude:claude-opus-4-6
> ---
>  mm/huge_memory.c | 14 +++-----------
>  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/mm/huge_memory.c b/mm/huge_memory.c
> index d689e6491ddb..0dec3c717ff2 100644
> --- a/mm/huge_memory.c
> +++ b/mm/huge_memory.c
> @@ -1333,7 +1333,7 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(thp_get_unmapped_area);
>  static struct folio *vma_alloc_anon_folio_pmd(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>  		unsigned long addr)
>  {
> -	gfp_t gfp = vma_thp_gfp_mask(vma);
> +	gfp_t gfp = vma_thp_gfp_mask(vma) | __GFP_ZERO;
>  	const int order = HPAGE_PMD_ORDER;
>  	struct folio *folio;
>
> @@ -1347,7 +1347,7 @@ static struct folio *vma_alloc_anon_folio_pmd(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>
>  	VM_BUG_ON_FOLIO(!folio_test_large(folio), folio);
>  	if (mem_cgroup_charge(folio, vma->vm_mm, gfp)) {
> -		folio_put(folio);
> +		folio_put_zeroed(folio);

Same comments as previously.

>  		count_vm_event(THP_FAULT_FALLBACK);
>  		count_vm_event(THP_FAULT_FALLBACK_CHARGE);
>  		count_mthp_stat(order, MTHP_STAT_ANON_FAULT_FALLBACK);
> @@ -1356,17 +1356,9 @@ static struct folio *vma_alloc_anon_folio_pmd(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>  	}
>  	folio_throttle_swaprate(folio, gfp);
>
> -       /*
> -	* When a folio is not zeroed during allocation (__GFP_ZERO not used)
> -	* or user folios require special handling, folio_zero_user() is used to
> -	* make sure that the page corresponding to the faulting address will be
> -	* hot in the cache after zeroing.
> -	*/
> -	if (user_alloc_needs_zeroing())
> -		folio_zero_user(folio, addr);
>  	/*
>  	 * The memory barrier inside __folio_mark_uptodate makes sure that
> -	 * folio_zero_user writes become visible before the set_pmd_at()
> +	 * page zeroing becomes visible before the set_pmd_at()

folio zeroing?

>  	 * write.
>  	 */
>  	__folio_mark_uptodate(folio);
> --
> MST
>

Thanks, Lorenzo

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-08 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-08  8:33 [PATCH v10 00/37] mm/virtio: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:34 ` [PATCH v10 01/37] mm: mempolicy: fix interleave index calculation Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  9:43   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:34 ` [PATCH v10 02/37] mm: memory-failure: serialize TestSetPageHWPoison with zone->lock Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  9:43   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 13:48     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 14:14       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 20:17         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 16:20       ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-08  8:34 ` [PATCH v10 03/37] mm: page_alloc: propagate PageReported flag across buddy splits Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  9:52   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 12:50     ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08  8:34 ` [PATCH v10 04/37] mm: page_reporting: allow driver to set batch capacity Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:34 ` [PATCH v10 05/37] mm: hugetlb: remove dead alloc_hugetlb_folio stub Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  9:56   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:35 ` [PATCH v10 06/37] mm: move vma_alloc_folio_noprof to page_alloc.c Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 10:05   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:35 ` [PATCH v10 07/37] mm: thread user_addr through page allocator for cache-friendly zeroing Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 10:23   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 11:06     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 13:04       ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08 13:09         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 14:26           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 14:31             ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08 14:37               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 14:44                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08 14:55                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 19:33                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 19:59         ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 20:21           ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 20:33             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 20:40               ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 11:08     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 15:27       ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 18:39         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 19:43           ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 19:52             ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 20:25               ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 20:37                 ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08  8:35 ` [PATCH v10 08/37] mm: add alloc_contig_frozen_pages_user " Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 10:29   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:35 ` [PATCH v10 09/37] mm: hugetlb: thread user_addr through gigantic page allocation Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:36 ` [PATCH v10 10/37] mm: add folio_zero_user stub for configs without THP/HUGETLBFS Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  9:12   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:36 ` [PATCH v10 11/37] mm: page_alloc: move prep_compound_page before post_alloc_hook Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 10:33   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:36 ` [PATCH v10 12/37] mm: use folio_zero_user for user pages in post_alloc_hook Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:23   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 15:53     ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 19:45       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 20:16         ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 20:30           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 19:42     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:36 ` [PATCH v10 13/37] mm: use __GFP_ZERO in vma_alloc_zeroed_movable_folio Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 10:39   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 10:55     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:37 ` [PATCH v10 14/37] mm: remove arch vma_alloc_zeroed_movable_folio overrides Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:29   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:37 ` [PATCH v10 15/37] mm: alloc_anon_folio: pass raw fault address to vma_alloc_folio Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:35   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:37 ` [PATCH v10 16/37] mm: alloc_swap_folio: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:37   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 15:59     ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 20:09       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:37 ` [PATCH v10 17/37] mm: page_reporting: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed reported pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:00   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 16:09     ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 18:40       ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08 19:55         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 18/37] mm: page_alloc: use aliasing checks instead of user_alloc_needs_zeroing Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:39   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 19/37] mm: page_alloc: clear PG_zeroed on buddy merge if not both zero Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:47   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 20/37] mm: page_alloc: preserve PG_zeroed in page_del_and_expand Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 21/37] mm: page_alloc: propagate PG_zeroed in split_large_buddy Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 22/37] mm: add free_frozen_pages_zeroed Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:06   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 23/37] mm: page_alloc: skip kernel_init_pages for FPI_ZEROED when safe Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:18   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 24/37] mm: add put_page_zeroed and folio_put_zeroed Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:25   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 12:46     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 14:08       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 14:28         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 19:58           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 25/37] mm: use __GFP_ZERO in alloc_anon_folio Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:29   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 26/37] mm: vma_alloc_anon_folio_pmd: pass raw fault address to vma_alloc_folio Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:30   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 27/37] mm: use __GFP_ZERO in vma_alloc_anon_folio_pmd Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:32   ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 28/37] mm: hugetlb: add gfp parameter and skip zeroing for zeroed pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:44   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 29/37] mm: memfd: skip zeroing for zeroed hugetlb pool pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:47   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 30/37] mm: page_reporting: add per-page zeroed bitmap for host feedback Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 31/37] virtio_balloon: submit reported pages as individual buffers Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:40 ` [PATCH v10 32/37] virtio_balloon: disable indirect descriptors Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:40 ` [PATCH v10 33/37] mm: page_reporting: add flush parameter with page budget Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:40 ` [PATCH v10 34/37] virtio_balloon: skip zeroing for host-zeroed reported pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:40 ` [PATCH v10 35/37] virtio_balloon: disable reporting zeroed optimization for confidential guests Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:40 ` [PATCH v10 36/37] mm: balloon: use put_page_zeroed for zeroed balloon pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:10   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08  8:40 ` [PATCH v10 37/37] virtio_balloon: implement VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_DEVICE_INIT_ON_INFLATE Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  9:17 ` [PATCH v10 00/37] mm/virtio: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed pages Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 12:52   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 11:02 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-08 11:13   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-08 15:45     ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 17:50       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 19:39         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 14:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08 20:02   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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