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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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	"Andrea Arcangeli" <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 24/37] mm: add put_page_zeroed and folio_put_zeroed
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2026 13:25:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aiazXE8pUDeCmP7c@lucifer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fef7ca7bbf591865defef658b0792b58494aaed5.1780906288.git.mst@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jun 08, 2026 at 04:38:54AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> Add put_page_zeroed() / folio_put_zeroed() for callers that hold
> a reference to a page known to be zeroed.
>
> If this drops the last reference, the zeroed hint is
> propagated to the buddy allocator.  If someone else still holds a
> reference, the hint is simply lost - this is best-effort.
>
> This is useful for balloon drivers during deflation: the host
> has already zeroed the pages, and the balloon is typically the
> sole owner.  But if the page happens to be shared, silently
> dropping the hint is safe and avoids the need for callers to
> check the refcount.
>
> Note: put_page_zeroed uses folio_put_testzero() which only
> detects sole ownership at the instant of the atomic decrement.
> A concurrent reference holder (e.g. migration) means the hint
> is silently lost. This is by design: the zeroed hint is a
> performance optimization, not a correctness requirement.
> Losing it just means the next allocation re-zeroes the page.

Do not put comments about specific expected races like this in the commit
message but not in the code. Subtleties need to be called out.

The commit message also doesn't at all explain why PG_zeroed doesn't
suffice here.

>
> Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> Assisted-by: Claude:claude-opus-4-6

I really don't understand why you have a 'zeroed' folio flag but need to
also have new API calls to detect that?

They're also HORRIBLY named. Zeroed as in what? Zero page? Huge zero page?
Memory zeroed by kernel? Pages that userland happen to have zeroed? Or host
VM zeroed?

Each are cases we address individually and relate to folios.

You absolutely fail to clarify _which one_ you mean, and provide absolutely
no documentation and add an exported mm API with no description.

This is just I think not something we want to add? Especially on something
so fundamental?

> ---
>  include/linux/mm.h | 13 +++++++++++++
>  mm/swap.c          | 20 ++++++++++++++++++--
>  2 files changed, 31 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
> index 06bbe9eba636..79b3a8cb9a3b 100644
> --- a/include/linux/mm.h
> +++ b/include/linux/mm.h
> @@ -1913,6 +1913,7 @@ static inline struct folio *virt_to_folio(const void *x)
>  }
>
>  void __folio_put(struct folio *folio);
> +void __folio_put_zeroed(struct folio *folio);
>
>  void split_page(struct page *page, unsigned int order);
>  void folio_copy(struct folio *dst, struct folio *src);
> @@ -2090,6 +2091,18 @@ static inline void folio_put(struct folio *folio)
>  		__folio_put(folio);
>  }
>
> +/* Caller must be sole owner to guarantee page is still zero */
> +static inline void folio_put_zeroed(struct folio *folio)
> +{
> +	if (folio_put_testzero(folio))
> +		__folio_put_zeroed(folio);
> +}
> +
> +static inline void put_page_zeroed(struct page *page)
> +{
> +	folio_put_zeroed(page_folio(page));
> +}
> +

Please stop adding more APIs to mm without kdocs. This just isn't
acceptable.

>  /**
>   * folio_put_refs - Reduce the reference count on a folio.
>   * @folio: The folio.
> diff --git a/mm/swap.c b/mm/swap.c
> index 5cc44f0de987..ecec780172ad 100644
> --- a/mm/swap.c
> +++ b/mm/swap.c
> @@ -94,13 +94,15 @@ static void page_cache_release(struct folio *folio)
>  		lruvec_unlock_irqrestore(lruvec, flags);
>  }
>
> -void __folio_put(struct folio *folio)
> +static void ___folio_put(struct folio *folio, bool zeroed)
>  {
> +	/* zeroed hint ignored for now, no current user */

Please don't add comments about why you didn't do something that nobody
here knows about with no context.

If you want to say something about this, make it clear. This is so succinct
it's utterly meaningless.

>  	if (unlikely(folio_is_zone_device(folio))) {
>  		free_zone_device_folio(folio);
>  		return;
>  	}
>
> +	/* zeroed hint ignored for now, no current user */
>  	if (folio_test_hugetlb(folio)) {
>  		free_huge_folio(folio);
>  		return;
> @@ -109,10 +111,24 @@ void __folio_put(struct folio *folio)
>  	page_cache_release(folio);
>  	folio_unqueue_deferred_split(folio);
>  	mem_cgroup_uncharge(folio);
> -	free_frozen_pages(&folio->page, folio_order(folio));
> +	if (zeroed)
> +		free_frozen_pages_zeroed(&folio->page, folio_order(folio));
> +	else
> +		free_frozen_pages(&folio->page, folio_order(folio));
> +}
> +
> +void __folio_put(struct folio *folio)
> +{
> +	___folio_put(folio, false);
>  }
>  EXPORT_SYMBOL(__folio_put);
>

No documentation again...

> +void __folio_put_zeroed(struct folio *folio)
> +{
> +	___folio_put(folio, true);
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(__folio_put_zeroed);
> +
>  typedef void (*move_fn_t)(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct folio *folio);
>
>  static void lru_add(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct folio *folio)
> --
> MST
>

Thanks, Lorenzo

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-08 12:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-08  8:33 [PATCH v10 00/37] mm/virtio: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:34 ` [PATCH v10 01/37] mm: mempolicy: fix interleave index calculation Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  9:43   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:34 ` [PATCH v10 02/37] mm: memory-failure: serialize TestSetPageHWPoison with zone->lock Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  9:43   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 13:48     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 14:14       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 20:17         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 16:20       ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-08  8:34 ` [PATCH v10 03/37] mm: page_alloc: propagate PageReported flag across buddy splits Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  9:52   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 12:50     ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08  8:34 ` [PATCH v10 04/37] mm: page_reporting: allow driver to set batch capacity Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:34 ` [PATCH v10 05/37] mm: hugetlb: remove dead alloc_hugetlb_folio stub Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  9:56   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:35 ` [PATCH v10 06/37] mm: move vma_alloc_folio_noprof to page_alloc.c Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 10:05   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:35 ` [PATCH v10 07/37] mm: thread user_addr through page allocator for cache-friendly zeroing Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 10:23   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 11:06     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 13:04       ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08 13:09         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 14:26           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 14:31             ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08 14:37               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 14:44                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08 14:55                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 19:33                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 19:59         ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 20:21           ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 20:33             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 20:40               ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 21:04                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 21:16                   ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 11:08     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 15:27       ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 18:39         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 19:43           ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 19:52             ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 20:25               ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 20:37                 ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 20:56                   ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 21:03                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:35 ` [PATCH v10 08/37] mm: add alloc_contig_frozen_pages_user " Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 10:29   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:35 ` [PATCH v10 09/37] mm: hugetlb: thread user_addr through gigantic page allocation Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:36 ` [PATCH v10 10/37] mm: add folio_zero_user stub for configs without THP/HUGETLBFS Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  9:12   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:36 ` [PATCH v10 11/37] mm: page_alloc: move prep_compound_page before post_alloc_hook Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 10:33   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:36 ` [PATCH v10 12/37] mm: use folio_zero_user for user pages in post_alloc_hook Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:23   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 15:53     ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 19:45       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 20:16         ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 20:30           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 20:53             ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 21:16               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 21:33                 ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 19:42     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:36 ` [PATCH v10 13/37] mm: use __GFP_ZERO in vma_alloc_zeroed_movable_folio Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 10:39   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 10:55     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:37 ` [PATCH v10 14/37] mm: remove arch vma_alloc_zeroed_movable_folio overrides Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:29   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:37 ` [PATCH v10 15/37] mm: alloc_anon_folio: pass raw fault address to vma_alloc_folio Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:35   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:37 ` [PATCH v10 16/37] mm: alloc_swap_folio: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:37   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 15:59     ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 20:09       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:37 ` [PATCH v10 17/37] mm: page_reporting: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed reported pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:00   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 16:09     ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 18:40       ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08 19:55         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 18/37] mm: page_alloc: use aliasing checks instead of user_alloc_needs_zeroing Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:39   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 19/37] mm: page_alloc: clear PG_zeroed on buddy merge if not both zero Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:47   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 20/37] mm: page_alloc: preserve PG_zeroed in page_del_and_expand Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 21/37] mm: page_alloc: propagate PG_zeroed in split_large_buddy Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 22/37] mm: add free_frozen_pages_zeroed Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:06   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 23/37] mm: page_alloc: skip kernel_init_pages for FPI_ZEROED when safe Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:18   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:38 ` [PATCH v10 24/37] mm: add put_page_zeroed and folio_put_zeroed Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:25   ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2026-06-08 12:46     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 14:08       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 14:28         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 19:58           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 25/37] mm: use __GFP_ZERO in alloc_anon_folio Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:29   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 26/37] mm: vma_alloc_anon_folio_pmd: pass raw fault address to vma_alloc_folio Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:30   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 27/37] mm: use __GFP_ZERO in vma_alloc_anon_folio_pmd Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:32   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 28/37] mm: hugetlb: add gfp parameter and skip zeroing for zeroed pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:44   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 29/37] mm: memfd: skip zeroing for zeroed hugetlb pool pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 12:47   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 30/37] mm: page_reporting: add per-page zeroed bitmap for host feedback Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:39 ` [PATCH v10 31/37] virtio_balloon: submit reported pages as individual buffers Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:40 ` [PATCH v10 32/37] virtio_balloon: disable indirect descriptors Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:40 ` [PATCH v10 33/37] mm: page_reporting: add flush parameter with page budget Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:40 ` [PATCH v10 34/37] virtio_balloon: skip zeroing for host-zeroed reported pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:40 ` [PATCH v10 35/37] virtio_balloon: disable reporting zeroed optimization for confidential guests Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  8:40 ` [PATCH v10 36/37] mm: balloon: use put_page_zeroed for zeroed balloon pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 11:10   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08  8:40 ` [PATCH v10 37/37] virtio_balloon: implement VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_DEVICE_INIT_ON_INFLATE Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08  9:17 ` [PATCH v10 00/37] mm/virtio: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed pages Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 12:52   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 11:02 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-08 11:13   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-08 15:45     ` Gregory Price
2026-06-08 17:50       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-08 19:39         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-08 14:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-08 20:02   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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