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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] mm: page_alloc: fix non-movable reclaim storm in defrag_mode
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2026 17:02:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <akWASvO97r-AG0Ow@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3f013cf5-008a-4207-85ce-d6f7c0296d99@kernel.org>

On Wed, Jul 01, 2026 at 08:06:03PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
> On 6/26/26 20:21, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > As we deployed defrag_mode into Meta production, pressure spikes and
> > excessive swapping were observed on some workloads. Tracing confirmed
> > that this is unmovable/reclaimable requests spinning in the allocator
> > and direct reclaim, causing excessive amounts of swap.
> > 
> > The initial plan for defrag_mode was to rely on kswapd/kcompactd to
> > produce blocks, and if those are overwhelmed under high pressure, let
> > the allocator fall back (__rmqueue_steal()) after its retry loops.
> > However, that retrying results in more reclaim on some of these
> > workloads than we'd hoped, sometimes excessively so, spurred on by the
> > !costly order conditions in should_reclaim_retry().
> > 
> > The storms are dependent on the request type. Reclaim will inevitably
> > make room in existing movable blocks, since that's where the LRU pages
> > live. So if movable requests retry on reclaim, they make progress.
> > 
> > When non-movable requests spin in reclaim that isn't productive. They
> > cannot use the individually freed pages, and the process is unlikely
> > to accidentally free whole blocks to meet the ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT bar.
> > They spin and overreclaim excessively, which tanks performance and
> > triggers userspace guards like swap exhaustion or pressure based OOM.
> > 
> > To fix this, send non-movable requests, regardless of order, into
> > pageblock reclaim/compaction. This way, they help move things along to
> > meet the ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT bar. After this patch, the reclaim storms
> > and excess OOM rates are no longer observed in production.
> > 
> > The longer-term plan is still to have all requests, including the
> > movable ones, help make blocks to spread the cost of defragmenting
> > more evenly and fairly; combined with proper watermarking to reduce
> > allocation latencies in the common case. However, doing this naively
> > unearths scaling and concurrency limitations in compaction that need
> > to be addressed first. Promoting just non-movables for now is the
> > minimally viable bug fix for the above issue.
> > 
> > Fixes: f38356df6474 ("mm: page_alloc: introduce defrag_mode")
> 
> That's from 6.15. Do you intend any stable backporting, or we just mark it
> as a heads up for anyone who tracks fixes and might consider it.

Good point, let's Cc: stable.

I doubt there are many defrag_mode users at this point, but this is
quite the handgrenade that went off in production once already and was
a pain to debug.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-01 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-26 18:21 [PATCH 0/4] mm: fix reclaim storms in defrag_mode Johannes Weiner
2026-06-26 18:21 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: page_alloc: __GFP_FS lockdep annotation for direct compaction Johannes Weiner
2026-07-01 13:45   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-02  0:39   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-26 18:21 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: compaction: support non-movable compaction for pageblock requests Johannes Weiner
2026-07-01 14:19   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-01 15:28     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-07-01 18:14       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-01 21:11         ` Johannes Weiner
2026-07-02  9:28           ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-02  1:47   ` Zi Yan
2026-06-26 18:21 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: page_alloc: move capture_control to the page allocator Johannes Weiner
2026-07-01 18:02   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-01 20:57     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-07-02 10:20       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-26 18:21 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: page_alloc: fix non-movable reclaim storm in defrag_mode Johannes Weiner
2026-06-26 18:29   ` Zi Yan
2026-06-26 18:43     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-07-01 18:06   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-01 21:02     ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2026-07-02  0:31 ` [PATCH 0/4] mm: fix reclaim storms " Shakeel Butt

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