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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Hans-Peter Jansen <hpj@urpla.net>
Cc: Dirk Hohndel <hohndel@infradead.org>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.32-rc3
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 15:13:12 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0910061511170.3432@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ACBB7D7.10207@urpla.net>



On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
> 
> Let's change the focus - what does it cost you:

No. You don't understand the difference between doing things right, and 
doing them wrong. It's not about "what does it cost me". It's about doing 
a really stupid thing that doesn't even _solve_ the problem in a lot of 
real cases, and doing the _right_ thing that solves it for every case.

And the fact that people cannot see the difference between those two 
cases is sad.

And no, this is not about "developers" vs "users". Not at all. Everything 
that makes it wrong for developers makes it wrong for users too. 

		Linus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-06 22:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-05  0:44 Linux 2.6.32-rc3 Linus Torvalds
2009-10-05 18:55 ` James Cloos
2009-10-06  1:57 ` Len Brown
2009-10-06  2:51   ` Dirk Hohndel
2009-10-06 14:18     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 14:38       ` Dirk Hohndel
2009-10-06 15:13         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 15:34           ` Dirk Hohndel
2009-10-06 15:43             ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]               ` <4ACBB7D7.10207@urpla.net>
2009-10-06 22:13                 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2009-10-06 16:36           ` Frans Pop
2009-10-07  1:09             ` Bryan Donlan
2009-10-07  5:56               ` Frans Pop
2009-10-06 14:44       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 15:24         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 15:36           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 15:51             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 16:29               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 16:35                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 16:31               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 16:40                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 18:12                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-06 18:24                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 21:19                       ` Stefan Richter
2009-10-06 17:15                 ` Stefan Richter
2009-10-06 18:16                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 17:22                 ` Frans Pop
2009-10-06 17:32                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 18:29                     ` Frans Pop
2009-10-07  0:51                       ` Florian Mickler
2009-10-06 17:35                 ` [patch] kbuild: Improve version string logic Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 18:37                   ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-06 18:49                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 18:55                       ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-06 19:03                     ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-06 19:45                     ` Frans Pop
2009-10-06 19:48                       ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-06 20:25                         ` Frans Pop
2009-10-07  2:43                   ` David Rientjes
2009-10-12 19:57                   ` [PATCH, v2] " Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 22:04                     ` Frans Pop
2009-10-13  7:05                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-13 17:51                         ` Frans Pop
2009-10-13 18:01                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-13 23:59                             ` David Rientjes
2009-10-14  6:59                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-14  7:24                                 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-14  7:33                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-14  7:42                                     ` David Rientjes
2009-10-14 23:43                                       ` Frans Pop
2009-10-15  7:37                                         ` David Rientjes
2009-10-15 14:13                                           ` Frans Pop
2009-10-15 20:38                                             ` David Rientjes
2009-10-15 21:01                                               ` Frans Pop
2009-10-15  9:03                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-15 14:42                                           ` Frans Pop
2009-10-15 20:45                                             ` David Rientjes
2009-10-15  8:01                                       ` David Rientjes
2009-10-15  8:59                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-14 21:55                               ` Frans Pop
2009-10-13  2:00                     ` David Rientjes
2009-10-13  7:07                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-13  7:59                         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-07 17:18                     ` [PATCH, v2] kbuild: Improve version string logic - two for the price of one - No thanks Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-07 19:45                       ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08  5:52                         ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-08  6:18                           ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08  6:34                             ` Paul Mundt
2010-06-08  6:39                               ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-08  7:16                                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-08  7:21                                   ` Paul Mundt
2010-06-08  7:21                                   ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-08  7:32                                     ` Paul Mundt
2010-06-08  7:52                                       ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-08  9:17                                         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08  6:37                             ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-08  8:31                         ` kbuild: Fix the breakage caused by "improve version string logic" Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-08  9:13                           ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 10:14                             ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-08 10:19                               ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-09  6:55                               ` David Rientjes
2010-06-09  7:54                                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-09  8:18                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-06 17:40                 ` Linux 2.6.32-rc3 Len Brown
2009-10-06 18:16                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-07 22:33                     ` Len Brown
2009-10-06 17:45                 ` Dirk Hohndel
2009-10-06 19:22                 ` Joel Becker
     [not found]               ` <4ACB77ED.6060104@grm.uci.cu>
2009-10-06 18:00                 ` Herlin R. Matos Lastres
2009-10-15 15:51             ` Frans Pop
2009-10-06 15:42           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 17:09             ` Frans Pop
2009-10-06 17:34               ` Stefan Richter
2009-10-06 17:41                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 18:56                   ` david
2009-10-06 18:23                 ` Frans Pop
2009-10-06 19:23                   ` Stefan Richter
2009-10-06 17:44             ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-06 18:14               ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-06 18:20               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 16:40           ` Frans Pop
2009-10-06 18:35             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-06 19:37               ` Frans Pop
2009-10-07 21:39           ` Steven Rostedt
2009-10-08 15:20           ` Frans Pop
2009-10-06 15:29         ` Stefan Richter
2009-10-06 17:08           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-06 17:20             ` Stefan Richter
2009-10-06 21:33       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-06 22:19         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-07  1:22           ` Dave Airlie
2009-10-07  2:31             ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-07  2:45               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-10 12:09               ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-10 12:18                 ` Felipe Contreras
2009-10-07  3:23             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-07  3:31               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-07 13:52                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-07 14:52                   ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-07 17:44                     ` david
2009-10-07 18:13                       ` Mike Galbraith
2009-10-07  4:02               ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-10-07 10:41 ` 2.6.32-rc3: floating-point build failure (undefined reference to `__udivdi3' in menu governor) Andreas Mohr
2009-10-07 14:23   ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-07 17:34     ` Andreas Mohr
2009-10-07 17:45       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-07 17:45       ` Kyle McMartin
2009-10-09 16:01         ` Andreas Mohr
2009-10-09 16:32           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-09 17:08             ` Kyle McMartin
2009-10-09 17:12               ` Arjan van de Ven

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