From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] mm: Make per-VMA locks available in all builds
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 10:01:07 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ebc08803-17ba-47e5-8297-c040240665ed@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <af4QC2It_jgSgCGd@lucifer>
On 5/8/26 09:52, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
...
>> * Can the helper avoid the goto, maybe by taking the VMA refcount
>> while holding mmap_lock?
>
> Surely that'd defeat the purpose of VMA locks though? you'd hold the mmap lock
> for less time but you're still contending vs. _any_ VMA write locks whilst
> trying to get a VMA read lock?
>
> Unless it's on a slow path... hmm :)
Yup. It's in a slow path. the example helper I had here does:
retry:
vma = lock_vma_under_rcu(mm, address);
if (vma)
return vma;
mmap_read_lock(mm);
vma = vma_lookup(mm, address);
mmap_read_unlock(mm);
goto retry;
It avoids mmap_lock in the common, fast case. I was hoping to replace it
with something like:
vma = lock_vma_under_rcu(mm, address);
if (vma)
return vma;
mmap_read_lock(mm);
vma = vma_lookup(mm, address);
vma_start_read(vma->vm_mm, vma); // Is this safe?
mmap_read_unlock(mm);
return vma;
Which still uses mmap_lock, but avoids the goto. I'm pretty sure the
first one doesn't have any locking problems. The second one, I need to
think about a _lot_ more.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-08 17:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20260429181954.F50224AE@davehans-spike.ostc.intel.com>
[not found] ` <20260429182005.00BF70D8@davehans-spike.ostc.intel.com>
2026-05-04 23:15 ` [PATCH 6/6] x86/mm: Avoid mmap lock for shadow stack pop fast path Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-05-05 16:39 ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-08 20:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
[not found] ` <20260429181955.0C443845@davehans-spike.ostc.intel.com>
2026-05-08 10:12 ` [PATCH 1/6] mm: Make per-VMA locks available universally David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-08 10:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-08 16:55 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-08 16:52 ` [PATCH 0/6] mm: Make per-VMA locks available in all builds Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-08 17:01 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
[not found] ` <20260429181957.7511C256@davehans-spike.ostc.intel.com>
2026-05-08 17:06 ` [PATCH 2/6] binder: Make shrinker rely solely on per-VMA lock Lorenzo Stoakes
[not found] ` <20260429181959.BC9DABC5@davehans-spike.ostc.intel.com>
2026-05-08 17:26 ` [PATCH 3/6] mm: Add RCU-based VMA lookup that waits for writers Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-08 20:15 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
[not found] ` <20260429182000.93887DFB@davehans-spike.ostc.intel.com>
2026-05-08 17:29 ` [PATCH 4/6] binder: Remove mmap_lock fallback Lorenzo Stoakes
[not found] ` <20260429182002.BB61C7BC@davehans-spike.ostc.intel.com>
2026-05-08 17:32 ` [PATCH 5/6] tcp: Remove mmap_lock fallback path Lorenzo Stoakes
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