From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
To: John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v23 3/9] sched/locking: Add special p->blocked_on==PROXY_WAKING value for proxy return-migration
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2025 13:02:23 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f3c78a55-0f09-44ab-8ce0-9658e534564d@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251030001857.681432-4-jstultz@google.com>
Hello John,
On 10/30/2025 5:48 AM, John Stultz wrote:
> As we add functionality to proxy execution, we may migrate a
> donor task to a runqueue where it can't run due to cpu affinity.
> Thus, we must be careful to ensure we return-migrate the task
> back to a cpu in its cpumask when it becomes unblocked.
>
> Peter helpfully provided the following example with pictures:
> "Suppose we have a ww_mutex cycle:
>
> ,-+-* Mutex-1 <-.
> Task-A ---' | | ,-- Task-B
> `-> Mutex-2 *-+-'
>
> Where Task-A holds Mutex-1 and tries to acquire Mutex-2, and
> where Task-B holds Mutex-2 and tries to acquire Mutex-1.
>
> Then the blocked_on->owner chain will go in circles.
>
> Task-A -> Mutex-2
> ^ |
> | v
> Mutex-1 <- Task-B
>
> We need two things:
>
> - find_proxy_task() to stop iterating the circle;
>
> - the woken task to 'unblock' and run, such that it can
> back-off and re-try the transaction.
>
> Now, the current code [without this patch] does:
> __clear_task_blocked_on();
> wake_q_add();
>
> And surely clearing ->blocked_on is sufficient to break the
> cycle.
>
> Suppose it is Task-B that is made to back-off, then we have:
>
> Task-A -> Mutex-2 -> Task-B (no further blocked_on)
>
> and it would attempt to run Task-B. Or worse, it could directly
> pick Task-B and run it, without ever getting into
> find_proxy_task().
>
> Now, here is a problem because Task-B might not be runnable on
> the CPU it is currently on; and because !task_is_blocked() we
> don't get into the proxy paths, so nobody is going to fix this
> up.
>
> Ideally we would have dequeued Task-B alongside of clearing
> ->blocked_on, but alas, [the lock ordering prevents us from
> getting the task_rq_lock() and] spoils things."
>
> Thus we need more than just a binary concept of the task being
> blocked on a mutex or not.
>
> So allow setting blocked_on to PROXY_WAKING as a special value
> which specifies the task is no longer blocked, but needs to
> be evaluated for return migration *before* it can be run.
Now I can truly appreciate the need for the tri-state with
that updated commit log. Thank you for the detailed explanation.
Feel free to include:
Reviewed-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
--
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek
>
> This will then be used in a later patch to handle proxy
> return-migration.
>
> Signed-off-by: John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-30 7:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-30 0:18 [PATCH v23 0/9] Donor Migration for Proxy Execution (v23) John Stultz
2025-10-30 0:18 ` [PATCH v23 1/9] locking: Add task::blocked_lock to serialize blocked_on state John Stultz
2025-10-30 0:18 ` [PATCH v23 2/9] sched: Fix modifying donor->blocked on without proper locking John Stultz
2025-10-30 4:51 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-30 23:42 ` John Stultz
2025-10-30 0:18 ` [PATCH v23 3/9] sched/locking: Add special p->blocked_on==PROXY_WAKING value for proxy return-migration John Stultz
2025-10-30 7:32 ` K Prateek Nayak [this message]
2025-10-30 23:53 ` John Stultz
2025-10-30 0:18 ` [PATCH v23 4/9] sched: Add assert_balance_callbacks_empty helper John Stultz
2025-10-30 7:38 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-30 0:18 ` [PATCH v23 5/9] sched: Add logic to zap balance callbacks if we pick again John Stultz
2025-10-30 8:08 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-31 3:15 ` John Stultz
2025-10-31 3:50 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-30 0:18 ` [PATCH v23 6/9] sched: Handle blocked-waiter migration (and return migration) John Stultz
2025-10-30 9:32 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-11-07 23:18 ` John Stultz
2025-11-10 4:47 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-11-20 1:53 ` John Stultz
2025-11-20 2:00 ` John Stultz
2025-11-20 2:55 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-11-20 6:33 ` John Stultz
2025-11-20 7:16 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-11-20 7:27 ` John Stultz
2025-11-07 15:19 ` Juri Lelli
2025-11-07 17:24 ` John Stultz
2025-10-30 0:18 ` [PATCH v23 7/9] sched: Have try_to_wake_up() handle return-migration for PROXY_WAKING case John Stultz
2025-10-31 4:27 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-11-20 1:05 ` John Stultz
2025-11-20 3:15 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-11-20 7:34 ` John Stultz
2025-10-30 0:18 ` [PATCH v23 8/9] sched: Add blocked_donor link to task for smarter mutex handoffs John Stultz
2025-10-31 5:01 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-11-11 7:50 ` John Stultz
2025-11-11 8:35 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-30 0:18 ` [PATCH v23 9/9] sched: Migrate whole chain in proxy_migrate_task() John Stultz
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