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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] MMIO accessors & barriers documentation
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 23:48:33 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1pse17hzi.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1157969261.23085.108.camel@localhost.localdomain> (Alan Cox's message of "Mon, 11 Sep 2006 11:07:41 +0100")

Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:

>> > "Except where the underlying device is marked as cachable or
>> > prefetchable"
>> 
>> You aren't supposed to use MMIO accessors on cacheable memory, are you ?
>
> Why not. Providing it is in MMIO space, consider ROMs for example or
> write path consider frame buffers.

Frame buffers are rarely cachable as such, on x86 they are usually
write-combining.   Which means that the writes can be merged and
possibly reordered while they are being written but they can't be
cached.  Most arches I believe have something that roughly corresponds
to write combining.

Ensuring we can still use this optimization to mmio space is
moderately important.

Eric




  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-09-12  5:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-11  4:03 [RFC] MMIO accessors & barriers documentation Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11  8:57 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-11  9:17   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 10:07     ` Alan Cox
2006-09-11  9:59       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 17:26         ` Alan Cox
2006-09-11 21:29           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-12  5:48       ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2006-09-12  5:56         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-12  6:27           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-09-12  7:13             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-12 15:19               ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-09-12 21:22                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-13  0:12                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-09-13  1:34                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 18:39 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-09-11 21:45   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 21:54     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-11 22:56       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 23:08         ` Roland Dreier
2006-09-11 23:18           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-11 23:24         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-12  0:46           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-12 15:32           ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-09-11 22:05     ` Jesse Barnes
2006-09-11 23:01       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-09-12  5:33 Albert Cahalan
2006-09-12  5:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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