Re: [LTP] [ANNOUNCE] The Linux Test Project has been released for JUNE 2012.

Re: [LTP] [ANNOUNCE] The Linux Test Project has been released for JUNE 2012.

[Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues]

On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 17:28 +0530, Shubham Goyal wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The Linux Test Project test suite has been released for the month of
> JUNE 2012.
> 
> The latest version of the test-suite contains 3000+ tests for the Linux
> OS and can be found at:
> http://ltp.sourceforge.net/,
> Latest happenings in LTP can also be found at:
> http://ltp.sourceforge.net/wiki/,
> http://ltp.sourceforge.net/wikiArchives.php, and,
> IRC: irc.freenode.org #ltp.
> 
> Our web site also contains other information such as:
> - A Linux test tools matrix
> - Technical papers
> - How To's on Linux testing
> - Code coverage analysis tool.

The wiki front page references some pretty old events. Some options that
comes into my mind:

1) Remove the sourceforge site, port the relevant documentation to a
github wiki [1], and move the site to be hosted under the github
infrastructure, ltp.github.com
2) Just heavily clean up and organize the existing sourceforge wiki.

Obviously this is just a suggestion, please don't be mad at me :) I find
useful to keep disciplined and try to keep the online documentation tidy
and up to date (although this is a difficult goal indeed).

[1] It's a wiki repo with text files, that can be in several different
formats, such as reStructuredText

> We would encourage the community to post results to
> ltp-results@lists.sf.net,
> 
> patches, new tests, bugs or comments/questions to ltp-list@lists.sf.net,
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=3382&atid=103382  (for
> New Bug(s)),
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=3382&atid=303382  (for
> New Patch(s)),
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=3382&atid=353382  (for
> New Feature Request(s))
> 
> **Note: Some pending patches will be checked in for next release.
> 
> --Shubham
> 
> 
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Re: [LTP] [ANNOUNCE] The Linux Test Project has been released for JUNE 2012.

[Wanlong Gao]

On 06/19/2012 10:57 PM, Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 17:28 +0530, Shubham Goyal wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> The Linux Test Project test suite has been released for the month of
>> JUNE 2012.
>>
>> The latest version of the test-suite contains 3000+ tests for the Linux
>> OS and can be found at:
>> http://ltp.sourceforge.net/,
>> Latest happenings in LTP can also be found at:
>> http://ltp.sourceforge.net/wiki/,
>> http://ltp.sourceforge.net/wikiArchives.php, and,
>> IRC: irc.freenode.org #ltp.
>>
>> Our web site also contains other information such as:
>> - A Linux test tools matrix
>> - Technical papers
>> - How To's on Linux testing
>> - Code coverage analysis tool.
> 
> The wiki front page references some pretty old events. Some options that
> comes into my mind:
> 
> 1) Remove the sourceforge site, port the relevant documentation to a
> github wiki [1], and move the site to be hosted under the github
> infrastructure, ltp.github.com

It's a good idea, I wonder that our github user is linux-test-project,
because user ltp was occupied, can we get a ltp.github.com domain to
hold our pages?

Thanks,
Wanlong Gao

> 2) Just heavily clean up and organize the existing sourceforge wiki.
> 
> Obviously this is just a suggestion, please don't be mad at me :) I find
> useful to keep disciplined and try to keep the online documentation tidy
> and up to date (although this is a difficult goal indeed).
> 
> [1] It's a wiki repo with text files, that can be in several different
> formats, such as reStructuredText
> 
>> We would encourage the community to post results to
>> ltp-results@lists.sf.net,
>>
>> patches, new tests, bugs or comments/questions to ltp-list@lists.sf.net,
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=3382&atid=103382  (for
>> New Bug(s)),
>> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=3382&atid=303382  (for
>> New Patch(s)),
>> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=3382&atid=353382  (for
>> New Feature Request(s))
>>
>> **Note: Some pending patches will be checked in for next release.
>>
>> --Shubham
>>
>>
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>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions 
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> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LTP] [ANNOUNCE] The Linux Test Project has been released for JUNE 2012.

[Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues]

On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 23:16 +0800, Wanlong Gao wrote:
> On 06/19/2012 10:57 PM, Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues wrote:
> > On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 17:28 +0530, Shubham Goyal wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> The Linux Test Project test suite has been released for the month of
> >> JUNE 2012.
> >>
> >> The latest version of the test-suite contains 3000+ tests for the Linux
> >> OS and can be found at:
> >> http://ltp.sourceforge.net/,
> >> Latest happenings in LTP can also be found at:
> >> http://ltp.sourceforge.net/wiki/,
> >> http://ltp.sourceforge.net/wikiArchives.php, and,
> >> IRC: irc.freenode.org #ltp.
> >>
> >> Our web site also contains other information such as:
> >> - A Linux test tools matrix
> >> - Technical papers
> >> - How To's on Linux testing
> >> - Code coverage analysis tool.
> > 
> > The wiki front page references some pretty old events. Some options that
> > comes into my mind:
> > 
> > 1) Remove the sourceforge site, port the relevant documentation to a
> > github wiki [1], and move the site to be hosted under the github
> > infrastructure, ltp.github.com
> 
> It's a good idea, I wonder that our github user is linux-test-project,
> because user ltp was occupied, can we get a ltp.github.com domain to
> hold our pages?

Hmm, true, unfortunately you'd have to stick with
linux-test-project.github.com, which isn't as nice as ltp.github.com :(

Still, it's worth thinking about it...


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Re: [LTP] [ANNOUNCE] The Linux Test Project has been released for JUNE 2012.

[chrubis]

Hi!
> > The Linux Test Project test suite has been released for the month of
> > JUNE 2012.
> > 
> > The latest version of the test-suite contains 3000+ tests for the Linux
> > OS and can be found at:
> > http://ltp.sourceforge.net/,
> > Latest happenings in LTP can also be found at:
> > http://ltp.sourceforge.net/wiki/,
> > http://ltp.sourceforge.net/wikiArchives.php, and,
> > IRC: irc.freenode.org #ltp.
> > 
> > Our web site also contains other information such as:
> > - A Linux test tools matrix
> > - Technical papers
> > - How To's on Linux testing
> > - Code coverage analysis tool.
> 
> The wiki front page references some pretty old events. Some options that
> comes into my mind:
 
Yes, I know that, and this is something that's on my long TODO. The
priority is quite low though.

> 1) Remove the sourceforge site, port the relevant documentation to a
> github wiki [1], and move the site to be hosted under the github
> infrastructure, ltp.github.com
> 2) Just heavily clean up and organize the existing sourceforge wiki.

Well I think that github wiki is improvement so I would personaly would
vote for number 1.

Also note that we do have some relevant docs under doc/ directory in our
git tree currently in asciidoc format. So maybe having sf.net pages with
content generated form asciidoc by typing make in doc directory would be
sufficient. That way we would have git backend wiki, the only
unconvinient part is that somebody needs to upload the pages (but that
could be backed up by the git syncing script that's allready runing as
well).

> Obviously this is just a suggestion, please don't be mad at me :) I find
> useful to keep disciplined and try to keep the online documentation tidy
> and up to date (although this is a difficult goal indeed).

I'm not mad at all, quite contrary. I know that having good
documentation is important, unfortunately it looks like nobody has time
to write it. Are you volunteering? I would be happy to give you commit
access ;).

-- 
Cyril Hrubis
chrubis@suse.cz

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Re: [LTP] [ANNOUNCE] The Linux Test Project has been released for JUNE 2012.

[chrubis]

Hi!
> > > The wiki front page references some pretty old events. Some options that
> > > comes into my mind:
> >  
> > Yes, I know that, and this is something that's on my long TODO. The
> > priority is quite low though.
> > 
> > > 1) Remove the sourceforge site, port the relevant documentation to a
> > > github wiki [1], and move the site to be hosted under the github
> > > infrastructure, ltp.github.com
> > > 2) Just heavily clean up and organize the existing sourceforge wiki.
> > 
> > Well I think that github wiki is improvement so I would personaly would
> > vote for number 1.
> > 
> > Also note that we do have some relevant docs under doc/ directory in our
> > git tree currently in asciidoc format. So maybe having sf.net pages with
> > content generated form asciidoc by typing make in doc directory would be
> > sufficient. That way we would have git backend wiki, the only
> > unconvinient part is that somebody needs to upload the pages (but that
> > could be backed up by the git syncing script that's allready runing as
> > well).
> 
> I have quite some experience of migrating/cleaning project documentation
> to github, so yeah, I believe I can help with it. A good thing about
> github wikis is that they are git repos, and the wiki engine is open
> source, you can run it on your own machine.

Great!

> > > Obviously this is just a suggestion, please don't be mad at me :) I find
> > > useful to keep disciplined and try to keep the online documentation tidy
> > > and up to date (although this is a difficult goal indeed).
> > 
> > I'm not mad at all, quite contrary. I know that having good
> > documentation is important, unfortunately it looks like nobody has time
> > to write it. Are you volunteering? I would be happy to give you commit
> > access ;).
> 
> I will help with it. I'll start to sketch a new LTP page using twitter
> bootstrap and will look at the process that could be used to do semi
> automated translation of the current documentation to restructured text.

The automatic translation is probably not worth the effort, there is
IMHO not enough of relevant docs for this to pay off.

Let me know if you need help with anything.

-- 
Cyril Hrubis
chrubis@suse.cz

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