[mlmmj] use at LibreOffice / reject moderation

[mlmmj] use at LibreOffice / reject moderation

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi,

sorry if I step in so often lately, but - good news first :-) - mlmmj
is the mailing list system we currently use at The Document Foundation
(LibreOffice) for our mailing lists. Because of this very large
deployment, many things come into my mind, and I thought that getting
in touch with you at this stage is helpful for both sides. :-)

Another good news: A colleague of mine has written a Python script
that can be used to strip HTML content from messages, and it currently
works like a charm. We'll open source it as soon as it has passed some
tests.

I imagine we also will localize a lot of templates for our various NLC
projects, and we're happy to contribute them back to your repository
as soon as they are ready.

My actual question is: Is there an option (or plans) to reject one
message for moderation? I would like to have the option of rejecting
e-mails, so no other moderator can accidentially moderate them
through. Is that possible yet?

Thanks,
Florian

Re: [mlmmj] use at LibreOffice / reject moderation

[Mads Martin Jørgensen]

On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Florian Effenberger <floeff@gmail.com> wrote:
> sorry if I step in so often lately, but - good news first :-) - mlmmj
> is the mailing list system we currently use at The Document Foundation
> (LibreOffice) for our mailing lists. Because of this very large
> deployment, many things come into my mind, and I thought that getting
> in touch with you at this stage is helpful for both sides. :-)

Very nice! :-)

> Another good news: A colleague of mine has written a Python script
> that can be used to strip HTML content from messages, and it currently
> works like a charm. We'll open source it as soon as it has passed some
> tests.

Sounds like something that might even go in contrib/ - good stuff.

> I imagine we also will localize a lot of templates for our various NLC
> projects, and we're happy to contribute them back to your repository
> as soon as they are ready.
>
> My actual question is: Is there an option (or plans) to reject one
> message for moderation? I would like to have the option of rejecting
> e-mails, so no other moderator can accidentially moderate them
> through. Is that possible yet?

Morten and I have been wanting to implement this for years, it just
never seemed to make it's way to the top of the todo list.

-- 
Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk
"Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic
 and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?"
                                 -- A. P. J.

Re: [mlmmj] use at LibreOffice / reject moderation

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi,

2010/10/11 Mads Martin Jørgensen <mmj@mmj.dk>:

> Very nice! :-)

:-) I hope we can give valueable feedback. As always, time is limited,
and my development skills are even more limited, but I hope we can
give valueable feedback and help improving mlmmj. If patches go into
some state that can be considered nearly-as-stable, I am also happy to
try them out on our production server.

>> Another good news: A colleague of mine has written a Python script
>> that can be used to strip HTML content from messages, and it currently
>> works like a charm. We'll open source it as soon as it has passed some
>> tests.
>
> Sounds like something that might even go in contrib/ - good stuff.

Have a first look at it:
http://github.com/awerner/pymime

>> My actual question is: Is there an option (or plans) to reject one
>> message for moderation? I would like to have the option of rejecting
>> e-mails, so no other moderator can accidentially moderate them
>> through. Is that possible yet?
>
> Morten and I have been wanting to implement this for years, it just
> never seemed to make it's way to the top of the todo list.

:-) Would be great to have, though I see you have many other important topics.

Florian

Re: [mlmmj] use at LibreOffice / reject moderation

[Ben Schmidt]

> sorry if I step in so often lately,

Well, I actually quite like it when there's a bit of activity. :-)

You're keeping me nice and busy with little bug fixes, too, and hey,
every bug fixed helps!

> but - good news first :-) - mlmmj
> is the mailing list system we currently use at The Document Foundation
> (LibreOffice) for our mailing lists. Because of this very large
> deployment, many things come into my mind, and I thought that getting
> in touch with you at this stage is helpful for both sides. :-)

A bit of communication is usually good! It is exciting to have another
large and prominent site using Mlmmj.

> Another good news: A colleague of mine has written a Python script
> that can be used to strip HTML content from messages, and it currently
> works like a charm. We'll open source it as soon as it has passed some
> tests.

I see you have sent a link to a repository for this now. I will have a
look some time soon.

> I imagine we also will localize a lot of templates for our various NLC
> projects, and we're happy to contribute them back to your repository
> as soon as they are ready.

That sounds wonderful.

I am actually hoping to rewrite the list texts in the next couple of
weeks, partly to incorporate the recent improvements that have been made
to the list text system. I then will be asking for people to help
translate them to be included in a new release. If your localisation
efforts could wait for a little while, it would be better to translate
the new texts than the current ones.

> My actual question is: Is there an option (or plans) to reject one
> message for moderation? I would like to have the option of rejecting
> e-mails, so no other moderator can accidentially moderate them
> through. Is that possible yet?

It's not possible yet, but there is no reason not to do it, other than
being busy and/or focusing on other things and higher priorities. This
feature will involve a change to list texts, too, so I may well try to
do it before rewriting them, which I suppose means I might do it pretty
soon!

Could you add it as an enhancement request in our bug tracker, please?
That will help me not to forget about it.

Smiles,

Ben.

Re: [mlmmj] use at LibreOffice / reject moderation

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi Ben,

2010/10/11 Ben Schmidt <mail_ben_schmidt@yahoo.com.au>:

> Well, I actually quite like it when there's a bit of activity. :-)

:-) sorry for being so silent and unresponsive, the last months kept
me rather busy. :(

> You're keeping me nice and busy with little bug fixes, too, and hey,
> every bug fixed helps!

Glad to help, and glad for your help!

> A bit of communication is usually good! It is exciting to have another
> large and prominent site using Mlmmj.

We'r really happy with it. There are some issues, but as you see, I'm
communicating them here. :-)

>> Another good news: A colleague of mine has written a Python script
>> that can be used to strip HTML content from messages, and it currently
>> works like a charm. We'll open source it as soon as it has passed some
>> tests.
>
> I see you have sent a link to a repository for this now. I will have a
> look some time soon.

PyMIME is a great help to us, it removes HTML messages and all
attachments, and also adds footers in the needed encoding. Feel free
to have a look and contribute: https://github.com/tdf/pymime

> I am actually hoping to rewrite the list texts in the next couple of
> weeks, partly to incorporate the recent improvements that have been made
> to the list text system. I then will be asking for people to help
> translate them to be included in a new release. If your localisation
> efforts could wait for a little while, it would be better to translate
> the new texts than the current ones.

Let me know when you're ready. :-)

Florian