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From: Eric Joyner <eric.joyner@amd.com>
To: "D H, Siddaraju" <siddaraju.dh@intel.com>,
	Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>, Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@suse.cz>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "Chintalapalle, Balaji" <balaji.chintalapalle@intel.com>,
	"Das, Shubham" <shubham.das@intel.com>,
	"Srinivasan, Vijay" <vijay.srinivasan@intel.com>,
	"Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>,
	"Keller, Jacob E" <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>,
	"Nguyen, Anthony L" <anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com>,
	"singhai.anjali55@gmail.com" <singhai.anjali55@gmail.com>,
	"Brandeburg, Jesse" <jbrandeburg@cloudflare.com>
Subject: Re: Ethtool is missing C2C link modes
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2026 16:18:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0d410deb-c670-4837-a87f-d4e8f3c73259@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SN7PR11MB6900E94E718175AACB2309109AFD2@SN7PR11MB6900.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On 7/10/2026 2:45 PM, D H, Siddaraju wrote:
> Hello Linux Ethernet team, Maxime, Andrew & Michal,
> 
> The IEEE AUI chip-to-chip (C2C) is the accepted standard for connecting
> chips that handle subfunctions within the OSI physical layer. Just to
> pick, the C2C is widely used when connecting Ethernet SoCs with retimers
> and PCS SerDes terminated external-phys to offload PHY sublayer functions.
> 
> With the existing ethtool link modes, we were not able to fit these C2C
> interfaces on any others (we fitted **SGMII interfaces to baseT link modes)
> and we see this as a gap. If you acknowledge this, we plan to send an
> RFC patch to define below listed C2C link modes to ethtool.
> 
> 	10G_SFI_C2C		SFF-8418
> 	25G_AUI_C2C		IEEE 802.3 Annex 109A
> 	CAUI4 C2C		IEEE 802.3 Annex 83D
> 	LAUI2-C2C		IEEE 802.3 Annex 135B
> 	50GAUI-1 C2C		IEEE 802.3 Annex 135F
> 	200GAUI-4 C2C		IEEE 802.3 Annex 120D
> 	100GAUI-1 C2C		IEEE 802.3ck Annex 120F
> 	200GAUI-2 C2C		IEEE 802.3ck Clause 162
> 	400GAUI-4 C2C		IEEE 802.3ck Clause 163
> 
> - Thank you,
> Siddaraju D H
> 

I'll piggyback on this thread because I have a related question about missing
ethtool link modes: what about entries for various Active Cable types? e.g. AOC,
ACC, and AEC for the appropriate speeds.

I see some drivers (like i40e and ice) detect these and map them to SR or DA/CR
types, but I don't see them do it in a consistent pattern, either. I couldn't
find anything that suggested a precedent on how to handle these.

- Eric

      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-07-13 23:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-10 21:45 Ethtool is missing C2C link modes D H, Siddaraju
2026-07-10 22:54 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-07-11  6:31   ` David Laight
2026-07-11  8:42     ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-07-13 23:18 ` Eric Joyner [this message]

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