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From: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
To: Baruch Even <baruch@ev-en.org>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>,
	John Heffner <jheffner@psc.edu>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	rhee@eos.ncsu.edu, Yee-Ting.Li@nuim.ie, netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: netif_rx packet dumping
Date: 03 Mar 2005 22:45:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1109907956.1092.476.camel@jzny.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4227A23C.5050300@ev-en.org>

On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 18:48, Baruch Even wrote:

> 
> The queue is there to handle short bursts of packets when the network 
> stack cannot handle it. The bad behaviour was the throttling of the 
> queue, 

Can you explain a little more? Why does the the throttling cause any
bad behavior thats any different from the queue being full? In both
cases, packets arriving during that transient will be dropped.

> the smart schemes are not going to make it that much better if 
> the hardware/software can't keep up.

consider that this queue could be shared by as many as a few thousand
unrelated TCP flows - not just one. It is also used for packets being
forwarded. If you factor that the system has to react to protect itself
then these schemes may make sense. The best place to do it is really in
hardware, but the closer to the hardware as possible is the next besr
possible spot. 

cheers,
jamal

  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-04  3:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-03 20:38 netif_rx packet dumping Stephen Hemminger
2005-03-03 20:55 ` David S. Miller
2005-03-03 21:01   ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-03-03 21:18   ` jamal
2005-03-03 21:21     ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-03-03 21:24       ` jamal
2005-03-03 21:32         ` David S. Miller
2005-03-03 21:54           ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-03-03 22:02             ` John Heffner
2005-03-03 22:26               ` jamal
2005-03-03 23:16                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-03-03 23:40                   ` jamal
2005-03-03 23:48                   ` Baruch Even
2005-03-04  3:45                     ` jamal [this message]
2005-03-04  8:47                       ` Baruch Even
2005-03-07 13:55                         ` jamal
2005-03-08 15:56                           ` Baruch Even
2005-03-08 22:02                             ` jamal
2005-03-22 21:55                             ` cliff white
2005-03-03 23:48                   ` John Heffner
2005-03-04  1:42                     ` Lennert Buytenhek
2005-03-04  3:10                       ` John Heffner
2005-03-04  3:31                         ` Lennert Buytenhek
2005-03-04 19:52                 ` Edgar E Iglesias
2005-03-04 19:54                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-03-04 21:41                     ` Edgar E Iglesias
2005-03-04 19:49             ` Jason Lunz
2005-03-03 22:01           ` jamal
2005-03-03 21:26 ` Baruch Even
2005-03-03 21:36   ` David S. Miller
2005-03-03 21:44     ` Baruch Even
2005-03-03 21:54       ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-03 22:04         ` David S. Miller
2005-03-03 21:57       ` David S. Miller
2005-03-03 22:14         ` Baruch Even
2005-03-08 15:42         ` Baruch Even
2005-03-08 17:00           ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-08 18:01             ` Baruch Even
2005-03-08 18:09             ` David S. Miller
2005-03-08 18:18               ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-08 18:37                 ` Thomas Graf
2005-03-08 18:51                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2005-03-08 22:16                   ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-08 18:27               ` Ben Greear
2005-03-09 23:57                 ` Thomas Graf
2005-03-10  0:03                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-03-10  8:33                   ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-10 14:08                     ` Thomas Graf
2005-03-31 16:33         ` Baruch Even
2005-03-03 22:03   ` jamal
2005-03-03 22:31     ` Baruch Even

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