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From: Jon Masters <jonathan@jonmasters.org>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>
Cc: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>,
	"Kok, Auke" <auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com>,
	johnathan@jonmasters.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	dwmw2@infradead.org
Subject: Re: network interface *name* alias support?
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:55:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1211576137.11907.59.camel@perihelion> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.10.0805232233270.19084@fbirervta.pbzchgretzou.qr>


On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 22:46 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> On Friday 2008-05-23 21:06, Jon Masters wrote:
> >> > bus-info: 0000:00:19.0
> >> 
> >> And if it happens to be in a hotplug slot today with a suitable hotplug 
> >> module (term?) loaded like acpiphp you can then map that to a more human 
> >> friendly slot number/name.  In the future, once Alex Chiang's pci slots 
> >> patches make it to mainline it will be possible even with non-hotplug slots.
> >
> >Yep, that's all great until the bus topology changes underneath you.
> >There is a need for alias support, because it will allow distributions
> >to assign a name based upon the *slot ordering specified by the vendor*
> >and therefore allow a consistent slot number no matter what hotplug
> >happens, what devices are added or removed, which devices are on-board
> >vs. in cards, and even (eventually) for non-PCI cards.
> >
> >In the case of Fedora, right now, we have files:
> >
> >ifcfg-eth<whatever>
> 
> While it's gone now, openSUSE had support for ifcfg-bus-pci-0000:00:19.0
> in versions prior to 10.3. I suggest you kindly ask they reinstate it
> because with Fedora it is probably not going to happen that they
> bus-pci-.. gets added in the first place.

Yes but *that isn't what I'm talking about* :)

That doesn't infer the physical ordering of the devices on the back of
the machine, does it? How do I know which device is labeled "0" on the
back of the machine, and in the vendor documentation? The answer is,
because they added a DMI extension to tell us this information. So let's
please stop thinking about physical bus ordering and instead view this
as a simple problem of wanting to add an alias based on what the vendor
reports should be the ordering of the devices in the system :)

Jon.



  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-23 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-23 16:31 network interface *name* alias support? Jan Engelhardt
2008-05-23 17:14 ` Kok, Auke
2008-05-23 17:44   ` Rick Jones
2008-05-23 19:06     ` Jon Masters
2008-05-23 19:11       ` Jon Masters
2008-05-23 20:46       ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-05-23 20:55         ` Jon Masters [this message]
2008-05-23 22:54       ` Thomas Graf
2008-05-24  4:25         ` Jon Masters
2008-05-24  4:53           ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-05-24  5:16             ` Matt Domsch
2008-05-24  9:15               ` James Chapman
2008-05-24  9:33                 ` David Woodhouse
2008-05-24 10:37                   ` James Chapman
2008-05-24 20:31                   ` Patrick McHardy
2008-05-24 20:54                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-05-25  3:07                       ` Patrick McHardy
2008-05-25 12:17                         ` David Miller
2008-05-27 19:03                           ` Matt Domsch
2008-05-27 21:49                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-05-27 22:11                             ` Thomas Graf
2008-05-24 18:12           ` Stephen Hemminger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-05-21 22:47 Jon Masters
2008-05-23 13:07 ` David Woodhouse
2008-05-23 14:50   ` Jon Masters

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