From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de>
Cc: Tom Herbert <therbert@google.com>,
Changli Gao <xiaosuo@gmail.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next-2.6] rps: consistent rxhash
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:39:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1271842773.7895.1692.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BCEC593.4000007@lastsummer.de>
Le mercredi 21 avril 2010 à 11:29 +0200, Franco Fichtner a écrit :
> Tom Herbert wrote:
> >> I thought about this for some time...
> >>
> >> Do we really need the port numbers here at all? A simple
> >> addr1^addr2 can provide a good enough pointer for
> >> distribution amongst CPUs.
> >>
> >
> > What about a server behind a TCP proxy? Also, need to minimize
> > collisions for RPS to be effective
>
> What about routers? What about loopback? This all boils down to
> the same issue of obscuring IP data by "magical" means and then
> reattaching functionality by reaching for upper layer information.
> It is necessary in some cases, but it can cripple performance
> for other cases.
>
> The interesting thing is you don't need to deal with collisions
> while distributing amonst cpus at all. You just need to make sure
> the distribution algorithm keeps every single flow attached to
> the correct cpu.
>
> All of the actual flow hashing, tracking and whatever else the
> traffic needs to go through can be done locally by cpu x which
> helps a lot with load distribution and cache issues in mind. It
> also helps locking because there is no global flow lookup table.
> Oh, and it also reduces collisions with every cpu you add for
> receiving.
>
> I work with a lot of plain office and ISP traffic in mind daily,
> so please don't misunderstand my motivation here. I'd hate to
> see poor performance in scenarios in which there is a lot of
> potential improvement.
>
I am a bit lost by this conversation.
Are you saying something is wrong with current schem ?
What are exactly your suggestions ?
Tom replied to you that a hash derived from (addr1 ^ addr2) would not
work in situations where all flows goes from machine A to machine B
(all hashes would be the same)
Current hash is probably more than enough to cover all situations.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-21 9:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-16 5:47 [PATCH v5] rfs: Receive Flow Steering Tom Herbert
2010-04-16 6:33 ` David Miller
2010-04-16 6:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-16 7:18 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-16 7:26 ` David Miller
2010-04-16 7:48 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-17 7:52 ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] rps: rps_sock_flow_table is mostly read Eric Dumazet
2010-04-17 7:57 ` David Miller
2010-04-16 15:35 ` [PATCH v5] rfs: Receive Flow Steering Tom Herbert
2010-04-16 18:15 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-16 18:35 ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-16 18:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-16 20:42 ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-16 21:12 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-16 21:25 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-17 16:10 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-17 17:38 ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-18 0:06 ` Changli Gao
2010-04-18 11:06 ` Franco Fichtner
2010-04-19 20:09 ` David Miller
2010-04-19 20:23 ` David Miller
2010-04-19 20:32 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-19 21:19 ` David Miller
2010-04-26 8:41 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-27 21:59 ` David Miller
2010-04-27 22:08 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-27 22:10 ` David Miller
2010-04-19 23:38 ` Changli Gao
2010-04-20 5:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-20 7:56 ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] rps: consistent rxhash Eric Dumazet
2010-04-20 8:18 ` David Miller
2010-04-20 12:48 ` Franco Fichtner
2010-04-20 13:16 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-20 14:03 ` Franco Fichtner
2010-04-20 14:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-20 21:41 ` David Miller
2010-04-20 23:35 ` Changli Gao
2010-04-20 23:38 ` David Miller
2010-04-21 19:12 ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-23 20:44 ` David Miller
2010-05-06 8:06 ` David Miller
2010-05-06 14:45 ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-20 15:09 ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-21 9:29 ` Franco Fichtner
2010-04-21 9:39 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2010-04-21 11:06 ` Franco Fichtner
2010-04-21 11:16 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-20 15:04 ` [PATCH v5] rfs: Receive Flow Steering Tom Herbert
2010-04-20 15:39 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-16 19:37 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-16 22:49 ` David Miller
2010-04-16 22:53 ` David Miller
2010-04-16 22:57 ` David Miller
2010-04-17 0:22 ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-17 0:58 ` David Miller
2010-04-16 11:57 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-16 13:32 ` jamal
2010-04-16 13:42 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-16 14:05 ` jamal
2010-04-16 15:28 ` Andi Kleen
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