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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de>
Cc: Tom Herbert <therbert@google.com>,
	Changli Gao <xiaosuo@gmail.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next-2.6] rps: consistent rxhash
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:39:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1271842773.7895.1692.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BCEC593.4000007@lastsummer.de>

Le mercredi 21 avril 2010 à 11:29 +0200, Franco Fichtner a écrit :
> Tom Herbert wrote:
> >> I thought about this for some time...
> >>
> >> Do we really need the port numbers here at all? A simple
> >> addr1^addr2 can provide a good enough pointer for
> >> distribution amongst CPUs.
> >>
> > 
> > What about a server behind a TCP proxy?  Also, need to minimize
> > collisions for RPS to be effective
> 
> What about routers? What about loopback? This all boils down to
> the same issue of obscuring IP data by "magical" means and then
> reattaching functionality by reaching for upper layer information.
> It is necessary in some cases, but it can cripple performance
> for other cases.
> 
> The interesting thing is you don't need to deal with collisions
> while distributing amonst cpus at all. You just need to make sure
> the distribution algorithm keeps every single flow attached to
> the correct cpu.
> 
> All of the actual flow hashing, tracking and whatever else the
> traffic needs to go through can be done locally by cpu x which
> helps a lot with load distribution and cache issues in mind. It
> also helps locking because there is no global flow lookup table.
> Oh, and it also reduces collisions with every cpu you add for
> receiving.
> 
> I work with a lot of plain office and ISP traffic in mind daily,
> so please don't misunderstand my motivation here. I'd hate to
> see poor performance in scenarios in which there is a lot of
> potential improvement.
> 

I am a bit lost by this conversation.

Are you saying something is wrong with current schem ?

What are exactly your suggestions ?

Tom replied to you that a hash derived from (addr1 ^ addr2) would not
work in situations where all flows goes from machine A to machine B
(all hashes would be the same)

Current hash is probably more than enough to cover all situations.






  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-21  9:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-16  5:47 [PATCH v5] rfs: Receive Flow Steering Tom Herbert
2010-04-16  6:33 ` David Miller
2010-04-16  6:56   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-16  7:18     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-16  7:26       ` David Miller
2010-04-16  7:48         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-17  7:52           ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] rps: rps_sock_flow_table is mostly read Eric Dumazet
2010-04-17  7:57             ` David Miller
2010-04-16 15:35     ` [PATCH v5] rfs: Receive Flow Steering Tom Herbert
2010-04-16 18:15       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-16 18:35     ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-16 18:53       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-16 20:42         ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-16 21:12           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-16 21:25             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-17 16:10             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-17 17:38               ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-18  0:06                 ` Changli Gao
2010-04-18 11:06                   ` Franco Fichtner
2010-04-19 20:09               ` David Miller
2010-04-19 20:23                 ` David Miller
2010-04-19 20:32                   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-19 21:19                     ` David Miller
2010-04-26  8:41                       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-27 21:59                         ` David Miller
2010-04-27 22:08                           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-27 22:10                             ` David Miller
2010-04-19 23:38                     ` Changli Gao
2010-04-20  5:59                       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-20  7:56                         ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] rps: consistent rxhash Eric Dumazet
2010-04-20  8:18                           ` David Miller
2010-04-20 12:48                           ` Franco Fichtner
2010-04-20 13:16                             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-20 14:03                               ` Franco Fichtner
2010-04-20 14:57                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-20 21:41                                   ` David Miller
2010-04-20 23:35                                     ` Changli Gao
2010-04-20 23:38                                       ` David Miller
2010-04-21 19:12                                     ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-23 20:44                                       ` David Miller
2010-05-06  8:06                                       ` David Miller
2010-05-06 14:45                                         ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-20 15:09                             ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-21  9:29                               ` Franco Fichtner
2010-04-21  9:39                                 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2010-04-21 11:06                                   ` Franco Fichtner
2010-04-21 11:16                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-20 15:04                         ` [PATCH v5] rfs: Receive Flow Steering Tom Herbert
2010-04-20 15:39                           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-16 19:37   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-16 22:49     ` David Miller
2010-04-16 22:53       ` David Miller
2010-04-16 22:57         ` David Miller
2010-04-17  0:22           ` Tom Herbert
2010-04-17  0:58             ` David Miller
2010-04-16 11:57 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-16 13:32   ` jamal
2010-04-16 13:42     ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-16 14:05       ` jamal
2010-04-16 15:28         ` Andi Kleen

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