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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
Cc: Albert Cahalan <acahalan@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: txqueuelen has wrong units; should be time
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 08:54:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1298793252.8726.45.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1102270758580.11974@uplift.swm.pp.se>

Le dimanche 27 février 2011 à 08:02 +0100, Mikael Abrahamsson a écrit :
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2011, Albert Cahalan wrote:
> 
> > Nanoseconds seems fine; it's unlikely you'd ever want
> > more than 4.2 seconds (32-bit unsigned) of queue.
> 
> I think this is shortsighted and I'm sure someone will come up with a case 
> where 4.2 seconds isn't enough. Let's not build in those kinds of 
> limitations from start.
> 
> Why not make it 64bit and go to picoseconds from start?
> 
> If you need to make it 32bit unsigned, I'd suggest to start from 
> microseconds instead. It's less likely someone would want less than a 
> microsecond of queue, than someone wanting more than 4.2 seconds of queue.
> 

32 or 64 bits doesnt matter a lot. At Qdisc stage we have up to 40 bytes
available in skb->sb[] for our usage.

Problem is some machines have slow High Resolution timing services.

_If_ we have a time limit, it will probably use the low resolution (aka
jiffies), unless high resolution services are cheap.

I was thinking not having an absolute hard limit, but an EWMA based one.




  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-27  7:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-27  5:44 txqueuelen has wrong units; should be time Albert Cahalan
2011-02-27  7:02 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2011-02-27  7:54   ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2011-02-27  8:27     ` Albert Cahalan
2011-02-27 10:55       ` Jussi Kivilinna
2011-02-27 20:07         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-27 21:32           ` Jussi Kivilinna
2011-02-28 11:43           ` Jussi Kivilinna
2011-02-28 13:10             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-28 18:31               ` Jussi Kivilinna
2011-02-28 16:11           ` John W. Linville
2011-02-28 16:48             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-28 16:55               ` John W. Linville
2011-02-28 17:18                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-28 21:45                 ` John Heffner
2011-03-01  4:11                   ` Albert Cahalan
2011-03-01  4:18                     ` David Miller
2011-03-01  6:54                       ` Albert Cahalan
2011-03-01  7:25                         ` David Miller
2011-03-01  7:26                         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-01 19:37                           ` Albert Cahalan
2011-03-01 20:14                             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-01 20:16                               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-02  3:10                           ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2011-03-02 20:25                             ` Chris Friesen
2011-03-01  5:01                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-01  5:36                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-27 23:33         ` Albert Cahalan
2011-02-28 11:23           ` Jussi Kivilinna
2011-03-02 21:54             ` [RFC LOL OMG] pfifo_lat: qdisc that limits dequeueing based on estimated link latency John W. Linville
2011-03-02 22:08               ` John W. Linville
2011-03-03 12:51               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-28 15:38           ` txqueuelen has wrong units; should be time Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-02-28 16:37             ` Albert Cahalan
2011-02-28 17:45               ` John W. Linville
2011-02-28 17:20             ` Bill Sommerfeld
2011-02-28 21:51               ` John Heffner
2011-03-01  0:46                 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2011-03-02  6:25                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-03-02  6:41                     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2011-03-02  7:07                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-03-02 16:41                         ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2011-03-02 16:50                           ` Eric Dumazet

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