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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>,
	John Heffner <johnwheffner@gmail.com>,
	Bill Sommerfeld <wsommerfeld@google.com>,
	Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@jauu.net>,
	Albert Cahalan <acahalan@gmail.com>,
	Jussi Kivilinna <jussi.kivilinna@mbnet.fi>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: txqueuelen has wrong units; should be time
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 17:50:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1299084644.2920.24.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1103021739550.7942@uplift.swm.pp.se>

Le mercredi 02 mars 2011 à 17:41 +0100, Mikael Abrahamsson a écrit :
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2011, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> 
> > Also WRED is not default on faster links because it can't be done fast 
> > enough.
> 
> Before this propagates as some kind of truth. Cisco modern core routers 
> have no problems doing WRED at wirespeed, the above statement is not true.
> 

looking at cisco docs you provided
( <http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_0s/feature/guide/12stbwr.html>
 )
, it seems the WRED time limits (instead of bytes/packets limits) are
internaly converted to bytes/packets limits


quote : 

When the queue limit threshold is specified in milliseconds, the number
of milliseconds is internally converted to bytes using the bandwidth
available for the class. 


So it seems its only a facility provided, and queues are still managed
with bytes/packets limits...

WRED is able to prob drop a packet when this packet is enqueued. At time
of enqueue, we dont know yet the time of dequeue, unless bandwidth is
known.

      reply	other threads:[~2011-03-02 16:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-27  5:44 txqueuelen has wrong units; should be time Albert Cahalan
2011-02-27  7:02 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2011-02-27  7:54   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-27  8:27     ` Albert Cahalan
2011-02-27 10:55       ` Jussi Kivilinna
2011-02-27 20:07         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-27 21:32           ` Jussi Kivilinna
2011-02-28 11:43           ` Jussi Kivilinna
2011-02-28 13:10             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-28 18:31               ` Jussi Kivilinna
2011-02-28 16:11           ` John W. Linville
2011-02-28 16:48             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-28 16:55               ` John W. Linville
2011-02-28 17:18                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-28 21:45                 ` John Heffner
2011-03-01  4:11                   ` Albert Cahalan
2011-03-01  4:18                     ` David Miller
2011-03-01  6:54                       ` Albert Cahalan
2011-03-01  7:25                         ` David Miller
2011-03-01  7:26                         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-01 19:37                           ` Albert Cahalan
2011-03-01 20:14                             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-01 20:16                               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-02  3:10                           ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2011-03-02 20:25                             ` Chris Friesen
2011-03-01  5:01                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-01  5:36                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-27 23:33         ` Albert Cahalan
2011-02-28 11:23           ` Jussi Kivilinna
2011-03-02 21:54             ` [RFC LOL OMG] pfifo_lat: qdisc that limits dequeueing based on estimated link latency John W. Linville
2011-03-02 22:08               ` John W. Linville
2011-03-03 12:51               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-28 15:38           ` txqueuelen has wrong units; should be time Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2011-02-28 16:37             ` Albert Cahalan
2011-02-28 17:45               ` John W. Linville
2011-02-28 17:20             ` Bill Sommerfeld
2011-02-28 21:51               ` John Heffner
2011-03-01  0:46                 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2011-03-02  6:25                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-03-02  6:41                     ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2011-03-02  7:07                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-03-02 16:41                         ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2011-03-02 16:50                           ` Eric Dumazet [this message]

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