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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Thomas Graf <tgraf@infradead.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	rick.jones2@hp.com, therbert@google.com, wsommerfeld@google.com,
	daniel.baluta@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: SO_REUSEPORT - can it be done in kernel?
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 03:56:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1299034598.2930.47.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110302023920.GA16072@gondor.apana.org.au>

Le mercredi 02 mars 2011 à 10:39 +0800, Herbert Xu a écrit :

> UDP is a datagram protocol, TCP is not.
> 
> Anyway, here is an alternate proposal.  When a TCP socket transmits
> for the first time (SYN or SYN-ACK), we pick a queue based on CPU and
> store it in the socket.  From then on we stick to that selection.
> 

Many TCP apps I know use one thread to perform listen/accept and a pool
of threads to handle each new conn.

Anyway, the SYN-ACK is generated by softirq, not really user choice.
CPU depends if NIC is RX multiqueue or RPS is setup.

All this discussion is about letting process scheduler decide TX queue,
(because user/admin used cpu affinity) or let network stack drive
scheduler : Please migrate this thread on this cpu.

Both schems should be allowed/configurable so that best results are
available.

> We would only allow changes if we can ensure that all transmitted
> packets have left the queue.  Or we just never change it like we
> do now.
> 

We do change in case of dst/route change. Each device can have different
number of TX queues.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-02  2:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-27 10:07 SO_REUSEPORT - can it be done in kernel? Daniel Baluta
2011-01-27 15:55 ` Bill Sommerfeld
2011-01-27 21:32 ` Tom Herbert
2011-02-25 12:56   ` Thomas Graf
2011-02-25 19:18     ` Rick Jones
2011-02-25 19:20       ` David Miller
2011-02-26  0:57         ` Herbert Xu
2011-02-26  2:12           ` David Miller
2011-02-26  2:48             ` Herbert Xu
2011-02-26  3:07               ` David Miller
2011-02-26  3:11                 ` Herbert Xu
2011-02-26  7:31                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-26  7:46                     ` David Miller
2011-02-27 11:02           ` Thomas Graf
2011-02-27 11:06             ` Herbert Xu
2011-02-28  3:45               ` Tom Herbert
2011-02-28  4:26                 ` Herbert Xu
2011-02-28 11:36               ` Herbert Xu
2011-02-28 13:32                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-28 14:13                   ` Herbert Xu
2011-02-28 14:22                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-28 14:25                       ` Herbert Xu
2011-02-28 14:53                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-28 15:01                     ` Thomas Graf
2011-02-28 14:13                 ` Thomas Graf
2011-02-28 16:22                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-28 16:37                     ` Thomas Graf
2011-02-28 17:07                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-01 10:19                         ` Thomas Graf
2011-03-01 10:33                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-01 11:07                             ` Thomas Graf
2011-03-01 11:13                               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-01 11:27                                 ` Thomas Graf
2011-03-01 11:45                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-01 11:53                                     ` Herbert Xu
2011-03-01 12:32                                       ` Herbert Xu
2011-03-01 13:04                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-01 13:11                                           ` Herbert Xu
2011-03-01 13:03                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-01 13:18                                         ` Herbert Xu
2011-03-01 13:52                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-01 13:58                                             ` Herbert Xu
2011-03-01 16:31                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-02  0:23                                             ` Herbert Xu
2011-03-02  2:00                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-02  2:39                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2011-03-02  2:56                                                   ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2011-03-02  3:09                                                     ` Herbert Xu
2011-03-02  3:44                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-02  7:12                                                   ` Tom Herbert
2011-03-02  7:31                                                     ` Herbert Xu
2011-03-02  8:04                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-02  8:07                                                         ` Herbert Xu
2011-03-02  8:24                                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-01 12:01                                     ` Thomas Graf
2011-03-01 12:15                                       ` Herbert Xu
2011-03-01 13:27                                       ` Herbert Xu
2011-03-01 12:18                                     ` Thomas Graf
2011-03-01 12:19                                       ` Herbert Xu
2011-03-01 13:50                                         ` Thomas Graf
2011-03-01 14:06                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-01 14:22                                             ` Thomas Graf
2011-03-01 14:30                                               ` Thomas Graf
2011-03-01 14:52                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-01 15:07                                                   ` Thomas Graf
2011-03-01  5:33                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-03-01 12:35                 ` Herbert Xu
2011-03-01 12:36                   ` [PATCH 1/5] inet: Remove unused sk_sndmsg_* from UFO Herbert Xu
2011-03-01 12:36                   ` [PATCH 3/5] inet: Add ip_make_skb and ip_finish_skb Herbert Xu
2011-03-01 12:36                   ` [PATCH 2/5] inet: Remove explicit write references to sk/inet in ip_append_data Herbert Xu
2011-03-02  6:15                     ` inet: Replace left-over references to inet->cork Herbert Xu
2011-03-02  7:01                       ` David Miller
2011-03-01 12:36                   ` [PATCH 5/5] udp: Add lockless transmit path Herbert Xu
2011-03-01 12:36                   ` [PATCH 4/5] udp: Switch to ip_finish_skb Herbert Xu
2011-03-01 16:43                   ` SO_REUSEPORT - can it be done in kernel? Eric Dumazet
2011-03-01 20:36                     ` David Miller
2011-02-28 11:41               ` [PATCH 2/5] net: Remove explicit write references to sk/inet in ip_append_data Herbert Xu
2011-03-01  5:31                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-28 11:41               ` [PATCH 1/5] net: Remove unused sk_sndmsg_* from UFO Herbert Xu
2011-03-01  5:31                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-28 11:41               ` [PATCH 3/5] inet: Add ip_make_skb and ip_send_skb Herbert Xu
2011-03-01  5:31                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-28 11:41               ` [PATCH 4/5] udp: Add lockless transmit path Herbert Xu
2011-02-28 11:41                 ` Herbert Xu
2011-03-01  5:30                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-02-25 19:21       ` SO_REUSEPORT - can it be done in kernel? Eric Dumazet
2011-02-25 22:48       ` Thomas Graf
2011-02-25 23:15         ` Rick Jones
2011-02-25 19:51     ` Tom Herbert
2011-02-25 22:58       ` Thomas Graf
2011-02-25 23:33       ` Bill Sommerfeld

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