From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
rick.jones2@hp.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, therbert@google.com,
ncardwell@google.com, maze@google.com, ycheng@google.com,
ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi
Subject: RE: [PATCH 2/2 net-next] tcp: sk_add_backlog() is too agressive for TCP
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 10:53:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1335257592.5205.131.camel@edumazet-glaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AE90C24D6B3A694183C094C60CF0A2F6026B6EEF@saturn3.aculab.com>
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 09:44 +0100, David Laight wrote:
> > On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 16:01 -0400, David Miller wrote:
> >
> > > Hmmm... why don't we just acknowledge reality and special case ACKs?
> > >
> >
> > Yes why not.
> >
> >
> > > If a TCP packet is dataless we should just let it go
> > > through no matter what and with no limits.
> > > It is by definition transient and will not
> > > get queued up into the socket past this backlog stage.
> > >
> >
> > Even being transient we need a limit. Without copybreak, an
> > ACK can cost 2048+256 bytes.
> >
> > In my 10Gbit tests (standard netperf using 16K buffers), I've seen
> > backlogs of 300 ACK packets...
>
> What about forcing a copybreak for acks when above the rx buffer size?
> That way you avoid the cost of the copy in teh normal case when
> the data will be freed, but avoid the memory overhead when a lot
> of acks (or rx data) is queued.
Thats noise, as the minimal truesize of an ACK packet is 512 + 256 on
x86_64
The fact that ixgbe provides 1024 + 256 could be fixed in the driver,
its a 4 lines change actually. Then you already have a minimal skb.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-04-24 8:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-04-23 9:38 [PATCH 2/2 net-next] tcp: sk_add_backlog() is too agressive for TCP Eric Dumazet
2012-04-23 17:14 ` Rick Jones
2012-04-23 17:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-23 20:01 ` David Miller
2012-04-23 20:37 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-23 20:57 ` Rick Jones
2012-04-23 21:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-23 21:51 ` Rick Jones
2012-04-23 21:56 ` Rick Jones
2012-04-23 22:05 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-23 22:16 ` Rick Jones
2012-04-24 15:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-04-23 21:01 ` David Miller
2012-04-23 21:38 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-24 2:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-24 2:27 ` David Miller
2012-04-24 8:01 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2012-04-24 8:10 ` David Miller
2012-04-24 8:21 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2012-04-24 8:25 ` David Miller
2012-04-24 8:40 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2012-04-24 8:48 ` David Miller
2012-04-24 10:32 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2012-04-24 8:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-26 8:10 ` [RFC] allow skb->head to point/alias to first skb frag Eric Dumazet
2012-04-26 8:36 ` David Miller
2012-04-26 9:10 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-26 9:18 ` David Miller
2012-04-26 9:22 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-26 10:09 ` Maciej Żenczykowski
2012-04-26 12:32 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-26 13:50 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-26 20:12 ` David Miller
2012-04-26 20:18 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-04-24 8:49 ` [PATCH 2/2 net-next] tcp: sk_add_backlog() is too agressive for TCP Eric Dumazet
2012-04-24 8:44 ` David Laight
2012-04-24 8:53 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
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