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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
Cc: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>,
	Tom Parkin <tparkin@katalix.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, David.Laight@ACULAB.COM,
	James Chapman <jchapman@katalix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] l2tp: use per-cpu variables for u64_stats updates
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 07:00:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1340859654.26242.201.camel@edumazet-glaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FEB90C3.9050607@hp.com>

On Wed, 2012-06-27 at 16:01 -0700, Rick Jones wrote:

> Today, sure, generalizing to packet counters in general, that bloat is 
> likely on its way.  At 100 Gbit/s Ethernet, that is upwards of 147 
> million packets per second each way.  At 1 GbE it is 125 million octets 
> per second.  So, if 32 bit octet counters were insufficient for 1 GbE, 
> 32 bit packet counters likely will be insufficient for 100GbE.
> 
> Or, I suppose, 3 or more bonded 40 GbEs or 10 or more bonded 10 GbEs 
> (unlikely though that last one may be) assuming there is stats 
> aggregation in the bond interface.

Note that I am all for 64bit counters on 64bit kernels because they are
almost[1] free, since they fit in a machine word (unsigned long).

tx_dropped is the count of dropped _packets_.

If more than 32bits are needed, and someone must run this 100GbE on a
32bit machine of the last century, he really has a big problem.


[1] : LLTX drivers case 
   since ndo_start_xmit() can be run concurrently by many cpus, safely
updating an "unsigned long" requires additional hassle :

   1) Use of a spinlock to protect the update.
   2) Use atomic_long_t instead of "unsigned long"
   3) Use percpu data

3) is overkill for devices with light traffic, because it consumes lot
of RAM on machines with 2048 possible cpus, _and_ the reader must fold
the data of all possible values.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-06-28  5:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-27 12:00 [PATCH v2] l2tp: use per-cpu variables for u64_stats updates Tom Parkin
2012-06-27 19:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-27 20:21   ` Rick Jones
2012-06-27 20:39     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-27 20:50       ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-06-27 20:58         ` Ben Greear
2012-06-27 21:20           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-27 21:31             ` Ben Greear
2012-06-27 21:35               ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-27 23:01                 ` Rick Jones
2012-06-27 23:09                   ` David Miller
2012-06-27 23:39                     ` Rick Jones
2012-06-28  5:00                   ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2012-06-28  8:24                     ` Tom Parkin
2012-06-28  8:46                     ` David Laight
2012-06-28 18:17                       ` Ben Hutchings
2012-06-27 21:32             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-27 21:40               ` Ben Greear
2012-06-27 21:50                 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-06-27 21:00       ` Rick Jones
2012-06-27 22:21       ` David Miller

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