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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
Cc: Julius Werner <jwerner@chromium.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
	Hideaki YOSHIFUJI <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Sameer Nanda <snanda@chromium.org>,
	Mandeep Singh Baines <msb@chromium.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tcp: Replace infinite loop on recvmsg bug with proper crashusers
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 09:05:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1352307902.3140.4588.camel@edumazet-glaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121107164358.GA20495@redhat.com>

On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 11:43 -0500, Dave Jones wrote:

> dude, look at the bug reports I just pointed you at.
> People _are_ aware there are bugs there.
> 

If I remember well, I helped to fix some of them.

> If you turn that into a BUG() those reports would never have been filed.
> How is that increasing awareness ?  People are going to see wedged computers,
> and hit the reset button. If we're lucky, we'll get photos of someone lucky
> enough to have hit it while at the console, not in X. But this is a huge
> step backwards for debugability.
> 
>  > I understand a distro maintainer has its own choices, but for upstream
>  > kernel we want to have early reports.
> 
> I'm running out of ways to word this, but I'll try again.
> You won't get those early reports if you turn this into a BUG().
> 
>  > This bug is fatal and a security issue. BUG() is appropriate.
> 
> turning a bug into a remote DoS is also a security issue.
> 

Apparently in some cases we can loop and fill the syslog, or
else Julius wouldnt have sent a patch.

So the proper fix is to emit this message only once, and to find
a way to alert the user security is compromised.

So if BUG() isnt good, just use WARN_ON_ONCE()

I feel that WARN_ON_ONCE() wont be clear enough to the user, especially
if we recover from this by closing the tcp session, exactly as if we
received a proper FIN.

Really if you object a BUG() here, I cant understand you didnt shout to
other BUG() uses in the kernel.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-07 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-07  0:15 [PATCH] tcp: Replace infinite loop on recvmsg bug with proper crash Julius Werner
2012-11-07  1:39 ` Dave Jones
2012-11-07  1:51   ` Julius Werner
2012-11-07 15:54     ` Dave Jones
2012-11-07 16:29       ` [PATCH] tcp: Replace infinite loop on recvmsg bug with proper crashusers Eric Dumazet
2012-11-07 16:43         ` Dave Jones
2012-11-07 17:05           ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2012-11-07 17:15             ` Dave Jones
2012-11-07 19:32               ` Julius Werner
2012-11-07 19:33                 ` [PATCH] tcp: Avoid infinite loop on recvmsg bug Julius Werner
2012-11-07 19:40                   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-11-07 21:14                     ` Julius Werner
2012-11-07 23:33                       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-11-07 23:42                         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-11-08  2:25                           ` Julius Werner
2012-11-09  3:29                             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-12-10 19:33                               ` Julius Werner
2012-12-10 20:23                                 ` David Miller
2012-11-07  1:51   ` [PATCH] tcp: Replace infinite loop on recvmsg bug with proper crash Eric Dumazet

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