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From: Javen <javen_xu@realsil.com.cn>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: "hkallweit1@gmail.com" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"nic_swsd@realtek.com" <nic_swsd@realtek.com>,
	"andrew+netdev@lunn.ch" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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	"kuba@kernel.org" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"pabeni@redhat.com" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com" <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>,
	"horms@kernel.org" <horms@kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"daniel@makrotopia.org" <daniel@makrotopia.org>,
	"linux@armlinux.org.uk" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"enelsonmoore@gmail.com" <enelsonmoore@gmail.com>,
	"daniel@thingy.jp" <daniel@thingy.jp>
Subject: RE: [PATCH net-next v8 3/7] r8169: add support for phylink
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2026 07:55:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <13ac909ae522426f9352fe8770ba2a5c@realsil.com.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0ddca9cd-4834-4d00-adc5-520e74a803eb@lunn.ch>

>
>On Mon, Aug 03, 2026 at 03:32:12AM +0000, Javen wrote:
>> >
>> >> +static void rtl_mac_link_up(struct phylink_config *config, struct
>> >> +phy_device
>> >*phydev,
>> >> +                         unsigned int mode, phy_interface_t interface,
>> >> +                         int speed, int duplex, bool tx_pause,
>> >> +bool
>> >> +rx_pause) {
>> >> +     struct rtl8169_private *tp = container_of(config, struct
>> >> +rtl8169_private,
>> >phylink_config);
>> >> +     struct device *d = tp_to_dev(tp);
>> >> +
>> >> +     tp->speed = speed;
>> >> +     rtl_link_chg_patch(tp, speed);
>> >> +
>> >> +     pm_request_resume(d);
>> >
>> >This does nothing with rx_pause and tx_pause. How is the MAC getting
>> >configured for flow control?
>>
>> To actually generate pause frames, the MAC needs Rx FIFO "Near Full" and
>"Near Empty" thresholds. The driver configures these statically during
>hardware initialization (rtl_hw_start_xxx) by writing to ERI registers 0xCC
>(RFIFONFULL_TH) and 0xD0 (RFIFOEMPTY_TH) via
>rtl8168g_set_pause_thresholds().
>>
>> Software enables/disables flow control by setting the Local PHY registers
>phy_set_asym_pause(). After auto-negotiation with the Link Partner, the PHY
>resolves the flow control capabilities. Once the link is up and flow control is
>negotiated, the integrated Realtek MAC hardware automatically reads the PHY
>result.
>>
>> Therefore, we don't need to do anything with tx_pause and rx_pause in
>mac_link_up.
>
>Yes you do.
>
>ethtool -A|--pause devname [autoneg on|off] [rx on|off] [tx on|off]
>
>Pause configuration falls into three major categories:
>
>1: The link is negotiated, and pause is negotiated
>2: The link is negotiated, but pause is forced. ethtool -A autoneg off ...
>3: The link is forced, ethtool -s autoneg off, and pause is forced, ethtool -A
>netneg off ...
>
>The PHY registers only tell you about 1:. phylink mac_link_up tells you the right
>thing to do for all three.

Hi Andrew,

Thanks for pointing this out. I have double-checked with our team, and the driver currently cannot handle Cases 2 & 3.

Here is the exact hardware limitation regarding flow control on our chip:
There are no independent software registers to configure Tx/Rx pause. The MAC hardware is completely hardwired:

When Autoneg is OFF (Forced mode): The hardware automatically locks Tx and Rx pause to DISABLED.
When Autoneg is ON: The MAC automatically polls the PHY and enables/disables flow control based purely on the negotiation result.
Because software cannot override this hardware behavior, we cannot explicitly force tx_pause or rx_pause via mac_link_up when autoneg is disabled.

How would you prefer I handle this limitation?
Should I just add a clear comment in mac_link_up explaining this, or is there a specific way in phylink to report that forced pause is unsupported so ethtool rejects Cases 2 & 3?

Best regards,
Javen

>
>    Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-14  7:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-30  6:50 [PATCH net-next v8 0/7] r8169: add support for phylink javen
2026-07-30  6:50 ` [PATCH net-next v8 1/7] r8169: add speed in private struct javen
2026-07-30  6:50 ` [PATCH net-next v8 2/7] net: phy: phylink: add helper to modify pause javen
2026-07-30  6:50 ` [PATCH net-next v8 3/7] r8169: add support for phylink javen
2026-08-02 14:55   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-08-03  3:32     ` Javen
2026-08-03  3:45       ` Andrew Lunn
2026-08-14  7:55         ` Javen [this message]
2026-08-14 13:04           ` Andrew Lunn
2026-07-30  6:50 ` [PATCH net-next v8 4/7] r8169: add support for RTL8116af javen
2026-07-30  6:50 ` [PATCH net-next v8 5/7] r8169: add support for RTL8127atf javen
2026-07-30  6:50 ` [PATCH net-next v8 6/7] r8169: add ltr support for RTL8117 series javen
2026-07-30  6:50 ` [PATCH net-next v8 7/7] r8169: fix RTL8116af can not enter s0idle and c10 javen

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