From: Hans de Goede <johannes.goede@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Daniel Golle <daniel@makrotopia.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
driver-core@lists.linux.dev,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Miri Korenblit <miriam.rachel.korenblit@intel.com>,
linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
Luiz Augusto von Dentz <luiz.dentz@gmail.com>,
linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] device_schedule_reprobe(): core helper and conversions
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2026 10:51:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <154779e8-5f73-4f3e-8618-104effb85538@oss.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2026081133-crazy-enquirer-97ce@gregkh>
Hi,
On 11-Aug-26 10:07, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2026 at 09:32:45AM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>> On 11-Aug-26 04:33, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2026 at 01:47:17AM +0100, Daniel Golle wrote:
>>>> Three in-tree drivers (iwlwifi, hci_h5, btintel_pcie) schedule a
>>>> deferred re-probe of their own device from a work item in module
>>>> text.
>>>
>>> That's a mess, why? Why not fix that up to not do that? Thousands of
>>> other kernel drivers do not do that, what makes these so special?
>>
>> I can only speak for the hci_h5 driver where I added the reprobe code-path.
>>
>> The problem is some of the Bluetooth HCI devices using hci_h5 loose all
>> state during system-suspend. This means that the HCI and the Bluetooth core
>> end up being out of sync.
>>
>> So we basically need to tear down and re-build everything including
>> e.g. the firmware upload which happens at probe(). Doing a full reprobe
>> is by far the easiest way to do this.
>>
>> I suspect the other 4 users + the pending driver which triggered
>> this are similar.
>
> Full reprobe feels different than the THIS_MODULE stuff, which is what I
> objected to here.
Right, the helper from 1/4 to safely do reprobe from a worker actually
removes the need for THIS_MODULE stuff :)
The THIS_MODULE stuff in the open-coded implementations is there to
avoid someone doing a rmmod while the reprobe is running. The new
helper replaces this with some checks in the workqueue function
checking the driver has not been rmmod-ed in the mean time.
>> Sure we can do the whole tear-down + setup from some worker
>> scheduled at resume, while keep the driver attached but if we need
>> to duplicate that over 4 drivers + the pending driver which triggers
>> this then IMHO those 5 users are a pattern which deserves having
>> some helper to do this through the existing probe() + remove(),
>> rather then requiring those 5 drivers to open code this themselves.
>>
>> Note that we already have device_reprobe(), which has 15 existing
>> users. This series just adds a helper to do a device_reprobe() from
>> a worker in a safe way.
>
> That feels a bit better, as long as this code really is "safe" :)
>
> So, how can this be tested and fixed up so it isn't a RFC anymore?
To me it looks like the main things are:
1. Agree that a helper to safely do a device_reprobe() from a worker
is helpful (I think this is done now?)
2. Get patch 1/4 reviewed. I can do an initial review but I'm not very
familiar with the driver/device core internals.
3. Test this. I can test this on a hci_h5 BT HCI that will hit this
code path.
I'll try to get 2. and 3. done soon-ish.
Regards,
Hans
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-11 8:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-11 0:47 [RFC PATCH 0/4] device_schedule_reprobe(): core helper and conversions Daniel Golle
2026-08-11 2:33 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-08-11 7:32 ` Hans de Goede
2026-08-11 8:07 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-08-11 8:51 ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2026-08-11 15:01 ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
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