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From: Hans de Goede <johannes.goede@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Daniel Golle <daniel@makrotopia.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
	driver-core@lists.linux.dev,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Miri Korenblit <miriam.rachel.korenblit@intel.com>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	Luiz Augusto von Dentz <luiz.dentz@gmail.com>,
	linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] device_schedule_reprobe(): core helper and conversions
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2026 09:32:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cb0d42dd-4755-49a8-8a05-297e4283914e@oss.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2026081139-strenuous-greasily-f4e5@gregkh>

Hi Greg,

On 11-Aug-26 04:33, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2026 at 01:47:17AM +0100, Daniel Golle wrote:
>> Three in-tree drivers (iwlwifi, hci_h5, btintel_pcie) schedule a
>> deferred re-probe of their own device from a work item in module
>> text.
> 
> That's a mess, why?  Why not fix that up to not do that?  Thousands of
> other kernel drivers do not do that, what makes these so special?

I can only speak for the hci_h5 driver where I added the reprobe code-path.

The problem is some of the Bluetooth HCI devices using hci_h5 loose all
state during system-suspend. This means that the HCI and the Bluetooth core
end up being out of sync.

So we basically need to tear down and re-build everything including
e.g. the firmware upload which happens at probe(). Doing a full reprobe
is by far the easiest way to do this.

I suspect the other 4 users + the pending driver which triggered
this are similar.

Sure we can do the whole tear-down + setup from some worker
scheduled at resume, while keep the driver attached but if we need
to duplicate that over 4 drivers + the pending driver which triggers
this then IMHO those 5 users are a pattern which deserves having
some helper to do this through the existing probe() + remove(),
rather then requiring those 5 drivers to open code this themselves.

Note that we already have device_reprobe(), which has 15 existing
users. This series just adds a helper to do a device_reprobe() from
a worker in a safe way.

Regards,

Hans




> 
>> The hand-rolled copies share two bug classes: the work function
>> ends with module_put(THIS_MODULE),
> 
> That's broken as-is.  a module should NEVER be calling
> module_get(THIS_MODULE) either.
> 
>> racing a concurrent rmmod freeing
>> the module text (the race module_put_and_kthread_exit() exists to
>> close for kthreads), and nothing synchronizes the deferred detach
>> against device_shutdown() or an administrative unbind.
> 
> yeah, that's a mess, don't do that.
> 
> Fix up the original drivers please, let's not encourage others to copy
> this broken scheme.
> 
> Also, your patches were not threaded properly :(
> 
> thanks,
> 
> greg k-h


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-11  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-11  0:47 [RFC PATCH 0/4] device_schedule_reprobe(): core helper and conversions Daniel Golle
2026-08-11  2:33 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-08-11  7:32   ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2026-08-11  8:07     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-08-11  8:51       ` Hans de Goede

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