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From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
To: Tom Herbert <therbert@google.com>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, ycheng@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tcp: Socket option to set congestion window
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 22:08:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100525220858.1071f238@nehalam> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.1005252157150.27170@pokey.mtv.corp.google.com>

On Tue, 25 May 2010 22:01:13 -0700 (PDT)
Tom Herbert <therbert@google.com> wrote:

> This patch allows an application to set the TCP congestion window
> for a connection through a socket option.  The maximum value that
> may set is specified in a sysctl value.  When the sysctl is set to
> zero, the default value, the socket option is disabled.
> 
> The socket option is most useful to set the initial congestion
> window for a connection to a larger value than the default in
> order to improve latency.  This socket option would typically be
> used by an "intelligent" application which might have better knowledge
> than the kernel as to what an appropriate initial congestion window is.
> 
> One use of this might be with an application which maintains per
> client path characteristics.  This could allow setting the congestion
> window more precisely than which could be achieved through the
> route command.
> 
> A second use of this might be to reduce the number of simultaneous
> connections that a client might open to the server; for instance
> when a web browser opens multiple connections to a server.  With multiple
> connections the aggregate congestion window is larger than that of a
> single connecton (num_conns * cwnd), this effectively can be used to
> circumvent slowstart and improve latency.  With this socket option, a
> single connection with a large initial congestion window could be used,
> which retains the latency properties of multiple connections but
> nicely reducing # of connections (load) on the network.
> 
> The systctl to enable and control this feature is
> 
>   net.ipv4.tcp_user_cwnd_max
> 
> The socket option call would be:
> 
>   setsockopt(fd, IPPROTO_TCP, TCP_CWND, &val, sizeof (val))
> 
> where val is the congestion window in # MSS.
> 

The IETF TCP maintainers already think Linux TCP allows unsafe
operation, this will just allow more possible misuse and prove
their argument.  Until/unless this behavior was approved by
a wider set of research, I don't think it should be accepted at
this time.


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  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-26  5:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-26  5:01 [PATCH] tcp: Socket option to set congestion window Tom Herbert
2010-05-26  5:08 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2010-05-26  5:52   ` David Miller
2010-05-26  7:06     ` Tom Herbert
2010-05-26  7:33       ` David Miller
2010-05-26 17:33       ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-26 17:41         ` Denys Fedorysychenko
2010-05-26 21:08         ` David Miller
2010-05-26 21:27           ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-26 22:10             ` David Miller
2010-05-26 22:29               ` Rick Jones
2010-05-27  7:57                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-26 23:15               ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-05-27  3:04                 ` David Miller
2010-05-27  7:08                   ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-05-27  7:28                     ` David Miller
2010-05-27  7:46                       ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-05-27 16:14                     ` Tom Herbert
2010-05-27 18:56                       ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-27 19:19                       ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer
2010-05-27  8:00               ` Andi Kleen

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