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From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, oss-drivers@netronome.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 4/7] devlink: allow subports on devlink PCI ports
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2019 12:07:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190305110718.GD2314@nanopsycho> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190304164007.7cef8af9@cakuba.netronome.com>

Tue, Mar 05, 2019 at 01:40:07AM CET, jakub.kicinski@netronome.com wrote:
>On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 12:19:02 +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>> Sat, Mar 02, 2019 at 08:48:47PM CET, jakub.kicinski@netronome.com wrote:
>> >On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 10:41:16 +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:  
>> >> Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 07:04:50PM CET, jakub.kicinski@netronome.com wrote:  
>> >> >PCI endpoint corresponds to a PCI device, but such device
>> >> >can have one more more logical device ports associated with it.
>> >> >We need a way to distinguish those. Add a PCI subport in the
>> >> >dumps and print the info in phys_port_name appropriately.
>> >> >
>> >> >This is not equivalent to port splitting, there is no split
>> >> >group. It's just a way of representing multiple netdevs on
>> >> >a single PCI function.
>> >> >
>> >> >Note that the quality of being multiport pertains only to
>> >> >the PCI function itself. A PF having multiple netdevs does
>> >> >not mean that its VFs will also have multiple, or that VFs
>> >> >are associated with any particular port of a multiport VF.
>> >> >
>> >> >Example (bus 05 device has subports, bus 82 has only one port per
>> >> >function):
>> >> >
>> >> >$ devlink port
>> >> >pci/0000:05:00.0/0: type eth netdev enp5s0np0 flavour physical
>> >> >pci/0000:05:00.0/10000: type eth netdev enp5s0npf0s0 flavour pci_pf pf 0 subport 0
>> >> >pci/0000:05:00.0/4: type eth netdev enp5s0np1 flavour physical
>> >> >pci/0000:05:00.0/11000: type eth netdev enp5s0npf0s1 flavour pci_pf pf 0 subport 1    
>> >> 
>> >> So these subport devlink ports are eswitch ports for subports, right?
>> >> 
>> >> Please see the following drawing:
>> >> 
>> >>                                  +---+      +---+      +---+
>> >>                             pfsub| 5 |    vf| 6 |      | 7 |pfsub
>> >>                                  +-+-+      +-+-+      +-+-+
>> >> physical link <---------+          |          |          |
>> >>                         |          |          |          |
>> >>                         |          |          |          |
>> >>                         |          |          |          |
>> >>                       +-+-+      +-+-+      +-+-+      +-+-+
>> >>                       | 1 |      | 2 |      | 3 |      | 4 |
>> >>                    +--+---+------+---+------+---+------+---+--+
>> >>                    |  physical    pfsub      vf         pfsub |
>> >>                    |  port        port       port       port  |
>> >>                    |                                          |
>> >>                    |                  eswitch                 |
>> >>                    |                                          |
>> >>                    |                                          |
>> >>                    +------------------------------------------+
>> >> 
>> >> 1) pci/0000:05:00.0/0: type eth netdev enp5s0np0 flavour physical switch_id 00154d130d2f
>> >> 2) pci/0000:05:00.0/10000: type eth netdev enp5s0npf0s0 flavour pci_pf pf 0 subport 0 switch_id 00154d130d2f
>> >> 3) pci/0000:05:00.0/10001: type eth netdev enp5s0npf0vf0 flavour pci_vf pf 0 vf 0 switch_id 00154d130d2f
>> >> 4) pci/0000:05:00.0/10001: type eth netdev enp5s0npf0s1 flavour pci_pf pf 0 subport 1 switch_id 00154d130d2f
>> >> 
>> >> This is basically what you have and I think we are in sync with that.
>> >> But what about 5,6,7? Should they have devlink port instances too?
>> >> 
>> >> 5) pci/0000:05:00.0/1: type eth netdev enp5s0f0?? flavour ???? pf 0 subport 0
>> >> 6) pci/0000:05:10.1/0: type eth netdev enp5s10f0 flavour ???? pf 0 vf 0
>> >> 7) pci/0000:05:00.0/1: type eth netdev enp5s0f0?? flavour ???? pf 0 subport 1
>> >> 
>> >> These are the "peers".
>> >> I think that there could be flavours "pci_pf" and "pci_vf". Then the
>> >> "representors" (switch ports) could have flavours "pci_pf_port" and
>> >> "pci_vf_port" or something like that. User can see right away
>> >> that is not "PF" of "VF" but rather something "on the other end".
>> >> Note there is no "switch_id" for these devlink ports that tells the user
>> >> these devlink ports are not part of any switch.
>> >> What do you think?  
>> >
>> >Hmmm.. Hm. Hm.
>> >
>> >To me its neat if the devlink instance matches an ASIC.  I think it's
>> >kind of clear for people to understand what it stands for then.  So if
>> >we wanted to do the above we'd have to make the switch_id the first
>> >class identifier for devlink instances, rather than the bus?  But then
>> >VF instances don't have a switch ID so that doesn't work...
>> >
>> >I need to think about it.
>> >
>> >It's also kind of strange that we have to add the noun *port* to the
>> >flavour of... a port...  So I would prefer not to have those showing up
>> >as ports.  Can we invent a new command (say "partition"?) that'd take
>> >the bus info where the partition is to be spawned?  
>> 
>> Devlink does not supposed to be only there for switches. From the
>> beginning the design was to handle cases where the netdev/ib_dev is not
>> the correct handle. Not only in case you have multiple instances (ports)
>> for one ASIC, but also in case you have only one. Example use case is
>> port-type-change (eth->ib,ib->eth).
>> 
>> I chose word "port" as the parent devlink instance is "dev" and if you
>> partition the ASIC you basically got "ports", each of a different flavour.
>> 
>> And as you said, devlink instance matches one ASIC. Therefore the
>> devlink instance should contain all bits there are part of that ASIC,
>> not only switch/eswitch ports. That would be very limitting.
>
>I could read this as us being in full agreement, but I'm not sure..
>I think we agree that all objects of an ASIC should be under one
>devlink instance, the question remains whether both ends of the pipe
>for PCI devices (subdevs or not) should appear under ports or does the
>"far end" (from ASICs perspective)/"host end" get its own category.

Yep. Please see the suggestion about "flavour host" I did in other reply
in this thread.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-05 11:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-01 18:04 [PATCH net-next v2 0/7] devlink: expose PF and VF representors as ports Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/7] nfp: split devlink port init from registration Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/7] devlink: add PF and VF port flavours Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/7] nfp: register devlink ports of all reprs Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-02  8:43   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-02 19:07     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-04  7:36       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-04 23:32         ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/7] devlink: allow subports on devlink PCI ports Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-02  9:41   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-02 19:48     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-04  7:56       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-05  0:33         ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-05 11:06           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-05 17:15             ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-05 19:59               ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-06 12:20               ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-06 17:56                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-07  3:56                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-07  9:48                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-08  2:52                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-08 14:54                       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-08 19:09                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-11  8:52                           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-12  2:10                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-12 14:02                               ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-12 20:56                                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-13  6:07                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-13 16:17                                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-13 16:22                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-13 16:55                                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-14  7:38                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-14 22:09                                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-14 22:35                                               ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-14 23:39                                                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-15  1:28                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-15  1:31                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-15  2:15                                                     ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2019-03-15  2:40                                                       ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                         ` <ae938b4f-5fa9-3c33-8ae6-eab2d3d9f1ec@intel.com>
2019-03-15 15:32                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-15 20:08                                                             ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-15 20:44                                                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-15 22:12                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-16  1:16                                                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-18 15:43                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 19:29                                                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-18 12:11                                                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-18 19:16                                                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-21  8:45                                                                     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-21 15:14                                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-21 16:14                                                                         ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-21 16:52                                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-21 17:20                                                                             ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-21 17:34                                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-22 16:27                                                                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-23  0:37                                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-15 21:59                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 12:21                                                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-18 15:56                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 16:22                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 19:36                                                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-18 19:44                                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 19:59                                                                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-18 20:35                                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 21:29                                                                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-18 22:11                                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-20 18:24                                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-20 20:22                                                                                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-20 23:39                                                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-21  9:08                                                                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-21 15:03                                                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-21 16:16                                                                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-21 16:50                                                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-21 17:23                                                                                               ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-21 17:42                                                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-22 13:32                                                                                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-23  0:40                                                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-25 20:34                                                                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 19:19                                                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-18 19:38                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-21  9:09                                                                     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-15  7:00                                               ` Jiri Pirko
     [not found]                                 ` <7227d58e-ac58-d549-b921-ca0a0dd3f4b0@intel.com>
2019-03-13  7:37                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-13 16:03                                     ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2019-03-13 16:24                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-04 11:19       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-05  0:40         ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-05 11:07           ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2019-03-04 11:08   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-05  0:51     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-05 11:09       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/7] nfp: switch to devlink_port_get_phys_port_name() Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 6/7] devlink: introduce port's peer netdevs Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 7/7] nfp: expose PF " Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-02 10:13 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/7] devlink: expose PF and VF representors as ports Jiri Pirko
2019-03-02 19:49   ` [oss-drivers] " Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-04  5:12   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-04 18:22 ` David Miller
2019-03-20 20:25 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-21  9:11   ` Jiri Pirko

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