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From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>,
	"Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"oss-drivers@netronome.com" <oss-drivers@netronome.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 4/7] devlink: allow subports on devlink PCI ports
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 17:14:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190321161421.GR2087@nanopsycho> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR0501MB2271039B68862D124FF7CDF4D1420@VI1PR0501MB2271.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 04:14:53PM CET, parav@mellanox.com wrote:
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 3:45 AM
>> To: Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>
>> Cc: Parav Pandit <parav@mellanox.com>; Samudrala, Sridhar
>> <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>; davem@davemloft.net;
>> netdev@vger.kernel.org; oss-drivers@netronome.com
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 4/7] devlink: allow subports on devlink PCI
>> ports
>> 
>> Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 08:16:42PM CET, jakub.kicinski@netronome.com
>> wrote:
>> >On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 13:11:54 +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>> >> >> >2. flavour should not be vf/pf, flavour should be hostport, switchport.
>> >> >> >Because switch is flat and agnostic of pf/vf/mdev.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Not sure. It's good to have this kind of visibility.
>> >> >
>> >> >Yes, this subthread honestly makes me go from 60% sure to 95% sure
>> >> >we shouldn't do the dual object thing :(  Seems like Parav is
>> >> >already confused by it and suggests host port can exist without
>> >> >switch port :(
>> >>
>> >> Although I understand your hesitation, the host ports are also
>> >> associated with the asic and should be under the devlink instance.
>> >> It is just a matter of proper documentation and clear code to avoid
>> >> confusions.
>> >
>> >They are certainly a part and belong to the ASIC, the question in my
>> >mind is more along the lines of do we want "one pipe/one port" or is it
>> >okay to have multiple software objects of the same kind for those
>> >objects.
>> >
>> >To put it differently - do want a port object for each port of the ASIC
>> >or do we want a port object for each netdev..
>> 
>> Perhaps "port" name of the object is misleading. From the beginning, I ment
>> to have it for both switch ports and host ports. I admit that "host port" is a
>> bit misleading, as it is not really a port of eswitch, but the counter part. But
>> if we introduce another object for that purpose in devlink (like "partititon"),
>> it would be a lot of duplication I think.
>> 
>> Question is, do we need the "host port"? Can't we just put a relation to host
>> netdev in the eswitch port.
>> 
>Can you please explain how does it work for rdma for non sriov use case?
>Do we have to create a fake eswitch object?

Could you please provide details on "rdma for non sriov use case"?


>
>> So as you suggest, we would have
>> devlink_port -+-- switch netdev/ibdev
>>               |
>> 	      +-- host netdev/ibdev
>>
>
>How does this work for rdma to program single node_guid for dual port ibdev?
>Did you actually read the recent example I showed in [1]?
>[1] https://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev&m=155312521817191&w=2
>And why it doesn't address all the use cases of pf/vf/mdev, ibdev, netdev?
>
>> So the "weights" of both switch/host netdev/ibdev to devlink_port relations
>> would be equivalent.
>> 
>> Then, the devlink_port would represent the whole "pipe" with both ends.
>> 
>> More I think about it, the more it makes sense to me...

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-21 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-01 18:04 [PATCH net-next v2 0/7] devlink: expose PF and VF representors as ports Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/7] nfp: split devlink port init from registration Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/7] devlink: add PF and VF port flavours Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/7] nfp: register devlink ports of all reprs Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-02  8:43   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-02 19:07     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-04  7:36       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-04 23:32         ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/7] devlink: allow subports on devlink PCI ports Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-02  9:41   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-02 19:48     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-04  7:56       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-05  0:33         ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-05 11:06           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-05 17:15             ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-05 19:59               ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-06 12:20               ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-06 17:56                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-07  3:56                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-07  9:48                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-08  2:52                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-08 14:54                       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-08 19:09                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-11  8:52                           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-12  2:10                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-12 14:02                               ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-12 20:56                                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-13  6:07                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-13 16:17                                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-13 16:22                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-13 16:55                                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-14  7:38                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-14 22:09                                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-14 22:35                                               ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-14 23:39                                                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-15  1:28                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-15  1:31                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-15  2:15                                                     ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2019-03-15  2:40                                                       ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]                                                         ` <ae938b4f-5fa9-3c33-8ae6-eab2d3d9f1ec@intel.com>
2019-03-15 15:32                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-15 20:08                                                             ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-15 20:44                                                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-15 22:12                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-16  1:16                                                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-18 15:43                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 19:29                                                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-18 12:11                                                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-18 19:16                                                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-21  8:45                                                                     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-21 15:14                                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-21 16:14                                                                         ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2019-03-21 16:52                                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-21 17:20                                                                             ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-21 17:34                                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-22 16:27                                                                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-23  0:37                                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-15 21:59                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 12:21                                                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-18 15:56                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 16:22                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 19:36                                                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-18 19:44                                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 19:59                                                                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-18 20:35                                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 21:29                                                                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-18 22:11                                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-20 18:24                                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-20 20:22                                                                                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-20 23:39                                                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-21  9:08                                                                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-21 15:03                                                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-21 16:16                                                                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-21 16:50                                                                                             ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-21 17:23                                                                                               ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-21 17:42                                                                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-22 13:32                                                                                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-23  0:40                                                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-25 20:34                                                                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-18 19:19                                                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-18 19:38                                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-21  9:09                                                                     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-15  7:00                                               ` Jiri Pirko
     [not found]                                 ` <7227d58e-ac58-d549-b921-ca0a0dd3f4b0@intel.com>
2019-03-13  7:37                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-13 16:03                                     ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2019-03-13 16:24                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-04 11:19       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-05  0:40         ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-05 11:07           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-04 11:08   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-05  0:51     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-05 11:09       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/7] nfp: switch to devlink_port_get_phys_port_name() Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 6/7] devlink: introduce port's peer netdevs Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 7/7] nfp: expose PF " Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-02 10:13 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/7] devlink: expose PF and VF representors as ports Jiri Pirko
2019-03-02 19:49   ` [oss-drivers] " Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-04  5:12   ` Parav Pandit
2019-03-04 18:22 ` David Miller
2019-03-20 20:25 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-21  9:11   ` Jiri Pirko

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