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From: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	Jiri Benc <jbenc@redhat.com>, Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz@mellanox.com>,
	Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Correct usage of dev_base_lock in 2020
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 22:50:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201130205053.mb6ouveu3nsts3np@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANn89iJ1+P_ihPwyHGwCpkeu1OAj=gf+MAnyWmZvyMg4uMfodw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 09:43:01PM +0100, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Understood, but really dev_base_lock can only be removed _after_ we
> convert all usages to something else (mutex based, and preferably not
> the global RTNL)

Sure.
A large part of getting rid of dev_base_lock seems to be just:
- deleting the bogus usage from mlx4 infiniband and friends
- converting procfs, sysfs and friends to netdev_lists_mutex
- renaming whatever is left into something related to the RFC 2863
  operstate.

> Focusing on dev_base_lock seems a distraction really.

Maybe.
But it's going to be awkward to explain in words what the locking rules
are, when the read side can take optionally the dev_base_lock, RCU, or
netdev_lists_lock, and the write side can take optionally the dev_base_lock,
RTNL, or netdev_lists_lock. Not to mention that anybody grepping for
dev_base_lock will see the current usage and not make a lot out of it.

I'm not really sure how to order this rework to be honest.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-30 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20201129182435.jgqfjbekqmmtaief@skbuf>
2020-11-29 20:58 ` Correct usage of dev_base_lock in 2020 Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-30  5:12   ` Stephen Hemminger
2020-11-30 10:41     ` Eric Dumazet
2020-11-30 18:14       ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-30 18:30         ` Eric Dumazet
2020-11-30 18:48         ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-30 19:00           ` Eric Dumazet
2020-11-30 19:03             ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-30 19:22               ` Eric Dumazet
2020-11-30 19:32                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-30 21:41                   ` Florian Fainelli
2020-11-30 19:46                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-30 20:18                   ` Eric Dumazet
2020-11-30 20:21                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2020-11-30 20:26                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-30 20:29                       ` Eric Dumazet
2020-11-30 20:36                         ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-30 20:43                           ` Eric Dumazet
2020-11-30 20:50                             ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2020-11-30 21:00                               ` Eric Dumazet
2020-11-30 21:11                                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-30 21:46                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2020-11-30 21:53                                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-30 22:20                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2020-11-30 22:41                                         ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-12-01 14:42           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-12-01 18:58             ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-12-10  4:32           ` [PATCH] net: bonding: retrieve device statistics under RTNL, not RCU kernel test robot

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