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From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Andrey Zhadchenko <andrey.zhadchenko@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, dev@openvswitch.org, pshelar@ovn.org,
	davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, kuba@kernel.org,
	pabeni@redhat.com, ptikhomirov@virtuozzo.com,
	alexander.mikhalitsyn@virtuozzo.com, avagin@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/1] openvswitch: allow specifying ifindex of new interfaces
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2022 15:09:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220817130945.szn6rmqubx5cs7ty@wittgenstein> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220817124909.83373-1-andrey.zhadchenko@virtuozzo.com>

On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 03:49:08PM +0300, Andrey Zhadchenko wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> CRIU currently do not support checkpoint/restore of OVS configurations, but
> there was several requests for it. For example,
> https://github.com/lxc/lxc/issues/2909

Ah right, I remember that. :)

> 
> The main problem is ifindexes of newly created interfaces. We realy need to
> preserve them after restore. Current openvswitch API does not allow to
> specify ifindex. Most of the time we can just create an interface via
> generic netlink requests and plug it into ovs but datapaths (generally any
> OVS_VPORT_TYPE_INTERNAL) can only be created via openvswitch requests which
> do not support selecting ifindex.
> 
> This patch allows to do so.
> For new datapaths I decided to use dp_infindex in header as infindex
> because it control ifindex for other requests too.
> For internal vports I reused OVS_VPORT_ATTR_IFINDEX.
> 
> The only concern I have is that previously dp_ifindex was not used for
> OVS_DP_VMD_NEW requests and some software may not set it to zero. However
> we have been running this patch at Virtuozzo for 2 years and have not
> encountered this problem. Not sure if it is worth to add new
> ovs_datapath_attr instead.
> 
> 
> As a broader solution, another generic approach is possible: modify
> __dev_change_net_namespace() to allow changing ifindexes within the same
> netns. Yet we will still need to ignore NETIF_F_NETNS_LOCAL and I am not
> sure that all its users are ready for ifindex change.

I think that might become confusing. We already have issues - even with
the tracking infrastucture - to keep track of ifindex changes when a
network device is moved between network namespaces multiple times. So
I'd rather not make it possible to change the ifindex at will within the
same network namespace though I understand the appeal for CRIU.

> This will be indeed better for CRIU so we won't need to change every SDN
> module to be able to checkpoint/restore it. And probably avoid some bloat.
> What do you think of this?
> 
> Andrey Zhadchenko (1):
>   openvswitch: allow specifying ifindex of new interfaces
> 
>  include/uapi/linux/openvswitch.h     |  4 ++++
>  net/openvswitch/datapath.c           | 16 ++++++++++++++--
>  net/openvswitch/vport-internal_dev.c |  1 +
>  net/openvswitch/vport.h              |  2 ++
>  4 files changed, 21 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> -- 
> 2.31.1
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-08-17 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-17 12:49 [PATCH net-next 0/1] openvswitch: allow specifying ifindex of new interfaces Andrey Zhadchenko
2022-08-17 12:49 ` [PATCH net-next 1/1] " Andrey Zhadchenko
2022-08-17 13:18   ` Christian Brauner
2022-08-17 13:09 ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2022-08-17 18:19 ` [ovs-dev] [PATCH net-next 0/1] " Ilya Maximets
2022-08-17 20:35   ` Andrey Zhadchenko
2022-08-17 22:15     ` Ilya Maximets
2022-08-17 23:11       ` Andrey Zhadchenko
2022-08-18 11:06         ` Ilya Maximets
2022-08-18 12:26           ` Andrey Zhadchenko

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