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From: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
To: arinc9.unal@gmail.com
Cc: "Arınç ÜNAL" <arinc.unal@arinc9.com>,
	"Daniel Golle" <daniel@makrotopia.org>,
	"Landen Chao" <Landen.Chao@mediatek.com>,
	"DENG Qingfang" <dqfext@gmail.com>,
	"Sean Wang" <sean.wang@mediatek.com>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Matthias Brugger" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
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	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"Frank Wunderlich" <frank-w@public-files.de>,
	"Bartel Eerdekens" <bartel.eerdekens@constell8.be>,
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	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net v4 6/7] net: dsa: introduce preferred_default_local_cpu_port and use on MT7530
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 00:51:22 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230614215122.rzjv3ovab5nunchs@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230612075945.16330-7-arinc.unal@arinc9.com>

On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 10:59:44AM +0300, arinc9.unal@gmail.com wrote:
> From: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
> 
> Since the introduction of the OF bindings, DSA has always had a policy that
> in case multiple CPU ports are present in the device tree, the numerically
> smallest one is always chosen.
> 
> The MT7530 switch family, except the switch on the MT7988 SoC, has 2 CPU
> ports, 5 and 6, where port 6 is preferable on the MT7531BE switch because
> it has higher bandwidth.
> 
> The MT7530 driver developers had 3 options:
> - to modify DSA when the MT7531 switch support was introduced, such as to
>   prefer the better port
> - to declare both CPU ports in device trees as CPU ports, and live with the
>   sub-optimal performance resulting from not preferring the better port
> - to declare just port 6 in the device tree as a CPU port
> 
> Of course they chose the path of least resistance (3rd option), kicking the
> can down the road. The hardware description in the device tree is supposed
> to be stable - developers are not supposed to adopt the strategy of
> piecemeal hardware description, where the device tree is updated in
> lockstep with the features that the kernel currently supports.
> 
> Now, as a result of the fact that they did that, any attempts to modify the
> device tree and describe both CPU ports as CPU ports would make DSA change
> its default selection from port 6 to 5, effectively resulting in a
> performance degradation visible to users with the MT7531BE switch as can be
> seen below.
> 
> Without preferring port 6:
> 
> [ ID][Role] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
> [  5][TX-C]   0.00-20.00  sec   374 MBytes   157 Mbits/sec  734    sender
> [  5][TX-C]   0.00-20.00  sec   373 MBytes   156 Mbits/sec    receiver
> [  7][RX-C]   0.00-20.00  sec  1.81 GBytes   778 Mbits/sec    0    sender
> [  7][RX-C]   0.00-20.00  sec  1.81 GBytes   777 Mbits/sec    receiver
> 
> With preferring port 6:
> 
> [ ID][Role] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
> [  5][TX-C]   0.00-20.00  sec  1.99 GBytes   856 Mbits/sec  273    sender
> [  5][TX-C]   0.00-20.00  sec  1.99 GBytes   855 Mbits/sec    receiver
> [  7][RX-C]   0.00-20.00  sec  1.72 GBytes   737 Mbits/sec   15    sender
> [  7][RX-C]   0.00-20.00  sec  1.71 GBytes   736 Mbits/sec    receiver
> 
> Using one port for WAN and the other ports for LAN is a very popular use
> case which is what this test emulates.
> 
> As such, this change proposes that we retroactively modify stable kernels

I keep mentally objecting to this patch and then I need to remind myself
why this decision was taken. I believe that a key element influencing
that decision is not sufficiently highlighted.

You can add, right here, after "stable kernels":

"(which don't support the modification of the CPU port assignments, so
as to let user space fix the problem and restore the throughput)"

> to keep the mt7530 driver preferring port 6 even with device trees where
> the hardware is more fully described.
> 
> Fixes: c288575f7810 ("net: dsa: mt7530: Add the support of MT7531 switch")
> Signed-off-by: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
> Signed-off-by: Arınç ÜNAL <arinc.unal@arinc9.com>
> ---

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-14 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-12  7:59 [PATCH net v4 0/7] net: dsa: mt7530: fix multiple CPU ports, BPDU and LLDP handling arinc9.unal
2023-06-12  7:59 ` [PATCH net v4 1/7] net: dsa: mt7530: fix trapping frames with multiple CPU ports on MT7531 arinc9.unal
2023-06-14 19:43   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-14 20:56     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-14 21:13       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-14 21:40         ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-12  7:59 ` [PATCH net v4 2/7] net: dsa: mt7530: fix trapping frames with multiple CPU ports on MT7530 arinc9.unal
2023-06-12 21:09   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-06-12 21:11     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-06-13 17:16     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-12  7:59 ` [PATCH net v4 3/7] net: dsa: mt7530: fix trapping frames on non-MT7621 SoC MT7530 switch arinc9.unal
2023-06-12 21:14   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-06-13 17:20     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-14 20:13   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-14 20:59     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-14 21:19       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-12  7:59 ` [PATCH net v4 4/7] net: dsa: mt7530: fix handling of BPDUs on " arinc9.unal
2023-06-14 20:50   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-14 21:05     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-14 21:16       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-14 21:43         ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-12  7:59 ` [PATCH net v4 5/7] net: dsa: mt7530: fix handling of LLDP frames arinc9.unal
2023-06-14 16:35   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-06-14 20:48     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-14 16:42   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-06-14 20:52     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-14 21:43       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-14 21:50         ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-15 12:45     ` Bartel Eerdekens
2023-06-16  1:53       ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-16  2:24         ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-12  7:59 ` [PATCH net v4 6/7] net: dsa: introduce preferred_default_local_cpu_port and use on MT7530 arinc9.unal
2023-06-14 21:51   ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2023-06-12  7:59 ` [PATCH net v4 7/7] MAINTAINERS: add me as maintainer of MEDIATEK SWITCH DRIVER arinc9.unal
2023-06-12 11:37 ` [PATCH net v4 0/7] net: dsa: mt7530: fix multiple CPU ports, BPDU and LLDP handling Russell King (Oracle)
2023-06-12 20:52   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-06-12 21:30     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-06-13 16:51       ` Arınç ÜNAL

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