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From: Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@amazon.com>
To: <kerneljasonxing@gmail.com>
Cc: <0x7f454c46@gmail.com>, <davem@davemloft.net>, <dima@arista.com>,
	<dsahern@kernel.org>, <edumazet@google.com>, <fw@strlen.de>,
	<kernelxing@tencent.com>, <kuba@kernel.org>, <kuniyu@amazon.com>,
	<ncardwell@google.com>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	<pabeni@redhat.com>, <pablo@netfilter.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] tcp: do not allow to connect with the four-tuple symmetry socket
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 10:56:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240819175614.14990-1-kuniyu@amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL+tcoCZQdU5H3c88g3MMoBRxvMTC81HaVzKF4TL=mA53arwWw@mail.gmail.com>

From: Jason Xing <kerneljasonxing@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2024 17:41:32 +0800
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 5:38 PM Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 11:32 AM Jason Xing <kerneljasonxing@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > After investigating such an issue more deeply in the customers'
> > > machines, the main reason why it can happen is the listener exits
> > > while another thread starts to connect, which can cause
> > > self-connection, even though the chance is slim. Later, the listener
> > > tries to listen and for sure it will fail due to that single
> > > self-connection.
> >
> > This would happen if the range of ephemeral ports include the listening port,
> > which is discouraged.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> >
> > ip_local_reserved_ports is supposed to help.
> 
> Sure, I workarounded it by using this and it worked.
> 
> >
> > This looks like a security issue to me, and netfilter can handle it.
> 
> I have to admit setting netfilter rules for each flow is not a very
> user-friendly way.

I think even netfilter is not needed.

It sounds like the server application needs to implement graceful shutdown.
The server should not release the port if there are on-going clients.  The
server should spin up a new process and use the following to transfer the
remaining connections:

  * FD passing
  * SO_REUSEPORT w/ (net.ipv4.tcp_migrate_req or BPF)

Then, no client can occupy the server's port even without
ip_local_reserved_ports.

But I still recommend using ip_local_reserved_ports unless the server port
is random.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-19 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-18  4:25 [PATCH net-next] tcp: do not allow to connect with the four-tuple symmetry socket Jason Xing
2024-08-18  5:16 ` Jason Xing
2024-08-18 13:50   ` Jason Xing
2024-08-18 18:48     ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2024-08-18 23:48       ` Jason Xing
2024-08-19  0:26         ` Jason Xing
2024-08-19  7:30           ` Eric Dumazet
2024-08-19  9:01             ` Jason Xing
2024-08-19  9:18               ` Eric Dumazet
2024-08-19  9:31                 ` Jason Xing
2024-08-19  9:38                   ` Eric Dumazet
2024-08-19  9:41                     ` Jason Xing
2024-08-19 17:56                       ` Kuniyuki Iwashima [this message]
2024-08-20  0:29                         ` Jason Xing

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