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From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Josef Bacik" <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	"Jeff Layton" <jlayton@kernel.org>,
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	"Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek" <zbyszek@in.waw.pl>,
	"Lennart Poettering" <mzxreary@0pointer.de>,
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	"Aleksa Sarai" <cyphar@cyphar.com>,
	"Amir Goldstein" <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	"Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Alexander Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
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	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 11/70] ns: add active reference count
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 16:32:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251028-fernweh-prasseln-b066fb441ee6@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aQCbLrYf_KTdxZjU@horms.kernel.org>

On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 10:30:06AM +0000, Simon Horman wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 12:52:40PM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> > diff --git a/kernel/nsproxy.c b/kernel/nsproxy.c
> 
> ...
> 
> > +void get_cred_namespaces(struct task_struct *tsk)
> > +{
> > +	ns_ref_active_get(tsk->real_cred->user_ns);
> 
> Hi Christian,
> 
> real_cred is protected by RCU, but this code doesn't seem to take
> that into account. Or, at least Sparse doesn't think so:
> 
> .../nsproxy.c:264:9: error: no generic selection for 'struct user_namespace *const [noderef] __rcu user_ns'
> .../nsproxy.c:264:9: warning: dereference of noderef expression
> 
> > +}
> > +
> > +void exit_cred_namespaces(struct task_struct *tsk)
> > +{
> > +	ns_ref_active_put(tsk->real_cred->user_ns);
> 
> Likewise here.

get_cred_namespaces() is called during copy_creds() which is called
during process creation aka from copy_process(). So copy_creds() always
takes the creds of current (the parent process in this case) which can't
change in any way.

Simplifying a bit:
Either we created a thread via CLONE_THREAD in which case we can't
specify CLONE_NEWUSER (little know fact, I guess) and so we just bump
the reference count on the existing user namespace from the parent's
creds, or we're creating a new set of credentials that no one has ever
seen before possibly even a new user namespace if CLONE_NEWUSER has been
specified.

In both case the credentials are completely stable. The call to
exit_cred_namespaces() has similar reasoning when called from the
cleanup/failure path of copy_process().

The other callsite is release_task() which is called - simplifying -
after the task has been reaped. That thing is deader than dead and
nothing can mess with its creds anymore.

In other words, the get/put patterns for namespace management generally
happens at edges where the relevant structures are stable and can't be
changed by anyone other than the calling thread. And at no point are we
putting references on creds themselves.

Let me know if I missed something obvious.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-28 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-24 10:52 [PATCH v3 00/70] nstree: listns() Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 01/70] libfs: allow to specify s_d_flags Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 02/70] nsfs: use inode_just_drop() Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 03/70] nsfs: raise DCACHE_DONTCACHE explicitly Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 04/70] pidfs: " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 05/70] nsfs: raise SB_I_NODEV and SB_I_NOEXEC Christian Brauner
2025-10-27 13:13   ` Jeff Layton
2025-10-28 15:35     ` Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 06/70] cgroup: add cgroup namespace to tree after owner is set Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 07/70] nstree: simplify return Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 08/70] ns: initialize ns_list_node for initial namespaces Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 09/70] ns: add __ns_ref_read() Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 10/70] ns: rename to exit_nsproxy_namespaces() Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 11/70] ns: add active reference count Christian Brauner
2025-10-27 16:36   ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-28 15:33     ` Christian Brauner
2025-10-28 10:30   ` Simon Horman
2025-10-28 15:32     ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2025-10-29  7:02   ` Askar Safin
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 12/70] ns: use anonymous struct to group list member Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 13/70] nstree: introduce a unified tree Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 14/70] nstree: allow lookup solely based on inode Christian Brauner
2025-10-27 13:48   ` Jeff Layton
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 15/70] nstree: assign fixed ids to the initial namespaces Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 16/70] ns: maintain list of owned namespaces Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 17/70] nstree: add listns() Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 14:06   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-10-28 15:20     ` Christian Brauner
2025-10-27 14:04   ` Jeff Layton
2025-10-28 15:39     ` Christian Brauner
2025-10-28 10:36   ` Simon Horman
2025-10-28 13:33     ` Christian Brauner
2025-10-29  7:52   ` Askar Safin
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 18/70] arch: hookup listns() system call Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 14:08   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 19/70] nsfs: update tools header Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 20/70] selftests/filesystems: remove CLONE_NEWPIDNS from setup_userns() helper Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 21/70] selftests/namespaces: first active reference count tests Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 22/70] selftests/namespaces: second " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 23/70] selftests/namespaces: third " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 24/70] selftests/namespaces: fourth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 25/70] selftests/namespaces: fifth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 26/70] selftests/namespaces: sixth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 27/70] selftests/namespaces: seventh " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 28/70] selftests/namespaces: eigth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 29/70] selftests/namespaces: ninth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 30/70] selftests/namespaces: tenth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 31/70] selftests/namespaces: eleventh " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 32/70] selftests/namespaces: twelth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 33/70] selftests/namespaces: thirteenth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 34/70] selftests/namespaces: fourteenth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 35/70] selftests/namespaces: fifteenth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 36/70] selftests/namespaces: add listns() wrapper Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 37/70] selftests/namespaces: first listns() test Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 38/70] selftests/namespaces: second " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 39/70] selftests/namespaces: third " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 40/70] selftests/namespaces: fourth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 41/70] selftests/namespaces: fifth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 42/70] selftests/namespaces: sixth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 43/70] selftests/namespaces: seventh " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 44/70] selftests/namespaces: eigth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 45/70] selftests/namespaces: ninth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 46/70] selftests/namespaces: first listns() permission test Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 47/70] selftests/namespaces: second " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 48/70] selftests/namespaces: third " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 49/70] selftests/namespaces: fourth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 50/70] selftests/namespaces: fifth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 51/70] selftests/namespaces: sixth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 52/70] selftests/namespaces: seventh " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 53/70] selftests/namespaces: first inactive namespace resurrection test Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 54/70] selftests/namespaces: second " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 55/70] selftests/namespaces: third " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 56/70] selftests/namespaces: fourth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 57/70] selftests/namespaces: fifth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 58/70] selftests/namespaces: sixth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 59/70] selftests/namespaces: seventh " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 60/70] selftests/namespaces: eigth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 61/70] selftests/namespaces: ninth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 62/70] selftests/namespaces: tenth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 63/70] selftests/namespaces: eleventh " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 64/70] selftests/namespaces: twelth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 65/70] selftests/namespace: first threaded active reference count test Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 66/70] selftests/namespace: second " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 67/70] selftests/namespace: third " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 68/70] selftests/namespace: commit_creds() active reference tests Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 69/70] selftests/namespace: add stress test Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 70/70] selftests/namespace: test listns() pagination Christian Brauner
2025-10-27 14:10 ` [PATCH v3 00/70] nstree: listns() Jeff Layton

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