From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
"Josef Bacik" <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
"Jeff Layton" <jlayton@kernel.org>,
"Jann Horn" <jannh@google.com>, "Mike Yuan" <me@yhndnzj.com>,
"Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek" <zbyszek@in.waw.pl>,
"Lennart Poettering" <mzxreary@0pointer.de>,
"Daan De Meyer" <daan.j.demeyer@gmail.com>,
"Aleksa Sarai" <cyphar@cyphar.com>,
"Amir Goldstein" <amir73il@gmail.com>,
"Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Alexander Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, "Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 17/70] nstree: add listns()
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 16:20:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251028-landhaus-akademie-875cd140fbbb@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <481c973c-3ae5-4184-976e-96ab633dd09a@app.fastmail.com>
On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 04:06:57PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2025, at 12:52, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > Add a new listns() system call that allows userspace to iterate through
> > namespaces in the system. This provides a programmatic interface to
> > discover and inspect namespaces, enhancing existing namespace apis.
>
> I double-checked that the ABI is well-formed and works the same
> way on all supported architectures, though I did not check the functional
> aspects.
>
> Acked-by: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
>
> One small thing I noticed:
>
> > +SYSCALL_DEFINE4(listns, const struct ns_id_req __user *, req,
> > + u64 __user *, ns_ids, size_t, nr_ns_ids, unsigned int, flags)
> > +{
> > + struct klistns klns __free(klistns_free) = {};
> > + const size_t maxcount = 1000000;
> > + struct ns_id_req kreq;
> > + ssize_t ret;
> > +
> > + if (flags)
> > + return -EINVAL;
> > +
> > + if (unlikely(nr_ns_ids > maxcount))
> > + return -EOVERFLOW;
> > +
> > + if (!access_ok(ns_ids, nr_ns_ids * sizeof(*ns_ids)))
> > + return -EFAULT;
>
> I'm a bit worried about hardcoding the maxcount value here, which
> seems to limit both the size of the allocation and prevent overflowing
> the multiplication of the access_ok() argument, though that isn't
> completely clear from the implementation.
>
> Allowing 8MB of vmalloc space to be filled can be bad on 32-bit
> systems that may only have 100MB in total. The access_ok() check
> looks like it tries to provide an early-fail error return but
> should not actually be needed since there is a single copy_to_user()
> in the end, and that is more likely to fail for unmapped memory than
> an access_ok() failure.
>
> Would it make sense to just drop the kvmalloc() completely and
> instead put_user() the output values individually? That way you
> can avoid both a hardwired limit and a potential DoS from vmalloc
> exhaustion.
Initially this wasn't possible because we walked all of this completely
with only rcu protection. But now that we always have to take a passive
reference its possible to do what you suggest. This would mean
ping-ponging the rcu_read_lock()/rcu_read_unlock() but that's probably
fine. How do you feel about the following?:
diff --git a/kernel/nstree.c b/kernel/nstree.c
index 1455573e774e..e4c8508e97c7 100644
--- a/kernel/nstree.c
+++ b/kernel/nstree.c
@@ -382,7 +382,7 @@ u64 __ns_tree_gen_id(struct ns_common *ns, u64 id)
}
struct klistns {
- u64 *kns_ids;
+ u64 __user *uns_ids;
u32 nr_ns_ids;
u64 last_ns_id;
u64 user_ns_id;
@@ -395,9 +395,8 @@ static void __free_klistns_free(const struct klistns *kls)
{
if (kls->user_ns_id != LISTNS_CURRENT_USER)
put_user_ns(kls->user_ns);
- if (kls->first_ns)
+ if (kls->first_ns && kls->first_ns->ops)
kls->first_ns->ops->put(kls->first_ns);
- kvfree(kls->kns_ids);
}
#define NS_ALL (PID_NS | USER_NS | MNT_NS | UTS_NS | IPC_NS | NET_NS | CGROUP_NS | TIME_NS)
@@ -429,18 +428,13 @@ static int copy_ns_id_req(const struct ns_id_req __user *req,
}
static inline int prepare_klistns(struct klistns *kls, struct ns_id_req *kreq,
- size_t nr_ns_ids)
+ u64 __user *ns_ids, size_t nr_ns_ids)
{
kls->last_ns_id = kreq->ns_id;
kls->user_ns_id = kreq->user_ns_id;
- kls->nr_ns_ids = nr_ns_ids;
- kls->ns_type = kreq->ns_type;
-
- kls->kns_ids = kvmalloc_array(nr_ns_ids, sizeof(*kls->kns_ids),
- GFP_KERNEL_ACCOUNT);
- if (!kls->kns_ids)
- return -ENOMEM;
-
+ kls->nr_ns_ids = nr_ns_ids;
+ kls->ns_type = kreq->ns_type;
+ kls->uns_ids = ns_ids;
return 0;
}
@@ -459,8 +453,9 @@ static struct ns_common *lookup_ns_owner_at(u64 ns_id, struct ns_common *owner)
node = owner->ns_owner_tree.rb_node;
while (node) {
- struct ns_common *ns = node_to_ns_owner(node);
+ struct ns_common *ns;
+ ns = node_to_ns_owner(node);
if (ns_id <= ns->ns_id) {
ret = ns;
if (ns_id == ns->ns_id)
@@ -494,7 +489,7 @@ static struct ns_common *lookup_ns_id(u64 mnt_ns_id, int ns_type)
static ssize_t do_listns_userns(struct klistns *kls)
{
- u64 *ns_ids = kls->kns_ids;
+ u64 __user *ns_ids = kls->uns_ids;
size_t nr_ns_ids = kls->nr_ns_ids;
struct ns_common *ns = NULL, *first_ns = NULL;
const struct list_head *head;
@@ -525,7 +520,9 @@ static ssize_t do_listns_userns(struct klistns *kls)
ret = 0;
head = &to_ns_common(kls->user_ns)->ns_owner;
userns_capable = ns_capable_noaudit(kls->user_ns, CAP_SYS_ADMIN);
- guard(rcu)();
+
+ rcu_read_lock();
+
if (!first_ns)
first_ns = list_entry_rcu(head->next, typeof(*ns), ns_owner_entry);
for (ns = first_ns; &ns->ns_owner_entry != head && nr_ns_ids;
@@ -534,19 +531,28 @@ static ssize_t do_listns_userns(struct klistns *kls)
continue;
if (!ns_get_unless_inactive(ns))
continue;
+
+ rcu_read_unlock();
+
if (userns_capable || is_current_namespace(ns) ||
((ns->ns_type == CLONE_NEWUSER) && ns_capable_noaudit(to_user_ns(ns), CAP_SYS_ADMIN))) {
- *ns_ids = ns->ns_id;
- ns_ids++;
+ if (put_user(ns->ns_id, ns_ids + ret))
+ return -EINVAL;
nr_ns_ids--;
ret++;
}
+
if (need_resched())
- cond_resched_rcu();
+ cond_resched();
+
+ rcu_read_lock();
+
/* doesn't sleep */
- ns->ops->put(ns);
+ if (ns->ops)
+ ns->ops->put(ns);
}
+ rcu_read_unlock();
return ret;
}
@@ -626,7 +632,7 @@ static inline bool ns_common_is_head(struct ns_common *ns,
static ssize_t do_listns(struct klistns *kls)
{
- u64 *ns_ids = kls->kns_ids;
+ u64 __user *ns_ids = kls->uns_ids;
size_t nr_ns_ids = kls->nr_ns_ids;
struct ns_common *ns, *first_ns = NULL;
struct ns_tree *ns_tree = NULL;
@@ -659,7 +665,8 @@ static ssize_t do_listns(struct klistns *kls)
else
head = &ns_unified_list;
- guard(rcu)();
+ rcu_read_lock();
+
if (!first_ns)
first_ns = first_ns_common(head, ns_tree);
@@ -669,6 +676,9 @@ static ssize_t do_listns(struct klistns *kls)
continue;
if (!ns_get_unless_inactive(ns))
continue;
+
+ rcu_read_unlock();
+
/* Check permissions */
if (!ns->ops)
user_ns = NULL;
@@ -679,16 +689,22 @@ static ssize_t do_listns(struct klistns *kls)
if (ns_capable_noaudit(user_ns, CAP_SYS_ADMIN) ||
is_current_namespace(ns) ||
((ns->ns_type == CLONE_NEWUSER) && ns_capable_noaudit(to_user_ns(ns), CAP_SYS_ADMIN))) {
- *ns_ids++ = ns->ns_id;
+ if (put_user(ns->ns_id, ns_ids + ret))
+ return -EINVAL;
nr_ns_ids--;
ret++;
}
if (need_resched())
- cond_resched_rcu();
+ cond_resched();
+
+ rcu_read_lock();
+
/* doesn't sleep */
- ns->ops->put(ns);
+ if (ns->ops)
+ ns->ops->put(ns);
}
+ rcu_read_unlock();
return ret;
}
@@ -713,19 +729,12 @@ SYSCALL_DEFINE4(listns, const struct ns_id_req __user *, req,
if (ret)
return ret;
- ret = prepare_klistns(&klns, &kreq, nr_ns_ids);
+ ret = prepare_klistns(&klns, &kreq, ns_ids, nr_ns_ids);
if (ret)
return ret;
if (kreq.user_ns_id)
- ret = do_listns_userns(&klns);
- else
- ret = do_listns(&klns);
- if (ret <= 0)
- return ret;
+ return do_listns_userns(&klns);
- if (copy_to_user(ns_ids, klns.kns_ids, ret * sizeof(*ns_ids)))
- return -EFAULT;
-
- return ret;
+ return do_listns(&klns);
}
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Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-24 10:52 [PATCH v3 00/70] nstree: listns() Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 01/70] libfs: allow to specify s_d_flags Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 02/70] nsfs: use inode_just_drop() Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 03/70] nsfs: raise DCACHE_DONTCACHE explicitly Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 04/70] pidfs: " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 05/70] nsfs: raise SB_I_NODEV and SB_I_NOEXEC Christian Brauner
2025-10-27 13:13 ` Jeff Layton
2025-10-28 15:35 ` Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 06/70] cgroup: add cgroup namespace to tree after owner is set Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 07/70] nstree: simplify return Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 08/70] ns: initialize ns_list_node for initial namespaces Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 09/70] ns: add __ns_ref_read() Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 10/70] ns: rename to exit_nsproxy_namespaces() Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 11/70] ns: add active reference count Christian Brauner
2025-10-27 16:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-28 15:33 ` Christian Brauner
2025-10-28 10:30 ` Simon Horman
2025-10-28 15:32 ` Christian Brauner
2025-10-29 7:02 ` Askar Safin
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 12/70] ns: use anonymous struct to group list member Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 13/70] nstree: introduce a unified tree Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 14/70] nstree: allow lookup solely based on inode Christian Brauner
2025-10-27 13:48 ` Jeff Layton
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 15/70] nstree: assign fixed ids to the initial namespaces Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 16/70] ns: maintain list of owned namespaces Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 17/70] nstree: add listns() Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 14:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-10-28 15:20 ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2025-10-27 14:04 ` Jeff Layton
2025-10-28 15:39 ` Christian Brauner
2025-10-28 10:36 ` Simon Horman
2025-10-28 13:33 ` Christian Brauner
2025-10-29 7:52 ` Askar Safin
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 18/70] arch: hookup listns() system call Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 14:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 19/70] nsfs: update tools header Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 20/70] selftests/filesystems: remove CLONE_NEWPIDNS from setup_userns() helper Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 21/70] selftests/namespaces: first active reference count tests Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 22/70] selftests/namespaces: second " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 23/70] selftests/namespaces: third " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 24/70] selftests/namespaces: fourth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 25/70] selftests/namespaces: fifth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 26/70] selftests/namespaces: sixth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 27/70] selftests/namespaces: seventh " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 28/70] selftests/namespaces: eigth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 29/70] selftests/namespaces: ninth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:52 ` [PATCH v3 30/70] selftests/namespaces: tenth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 31/70] selftests/namespaces: eleventh " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 32/70] selftests/namespaces: twelth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 33/70] selftests/namespaces: thirteenth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 34/70] selftests/namespaces: fourteenth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 35/70] selftests/namespaces: fifteenth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 36/70] selftests/namespaces: add listns() wrapper Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 37/70] selftests/namespaces: first listns() test Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 38/70] selftests/namespaces: second " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 39/70] selftests/namespaces: third " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 40/70] selftests/namespaces: fourth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 41/70] selftests/namespaces: fifth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 42/70] selftests/namespaces: sixth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 43/70] selftests/namespaces: seventh " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 44/70] selftests/namespaces: eigth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 45/70] selftests/namespaces: ninth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 46/70] selftests/namespaces: first listns() permission test Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 47/70] selftests/namespaces: second " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 48/70] selftests/namespaces: third " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 49/70] selftests/namespaces: fourth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 50/70] selftests/namespaces: fifth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 51/70] selftests/namespaces: sixth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 52/70] selftests/namespaces: seventh " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 53/70] selftests/namespaces: first inactive namespace resurrection test Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 54/70] selftests/namespaces: second " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 55/70] selftests/namespaces: third " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 56/70] selftests/namespaces: fourth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 57/70] selftests/namespaces: fifth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 58/70] selftests/namespaces: sixth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 59/70] selftests/namespaces: seventh " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 60/70] selftests/namespaces: eigth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 61/70] selftests/namespaces: ninth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 62/70] selftests/namespaces: tenth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 63/70] selftests/namespaces: eleventh " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 64/70] selftests/namespaces: twelth " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 65/70] selftests/namespace: first threaded active reference count test Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 66/70] selftests/namespace: second " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 67/70] selftests/namespace: third " Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 68/70] selftests/namespace: commit_creds() active reference tests Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 69/70] selftests/namespace: add stress test Christian Brauner
2025-10-24 10:53 ` [PATCH v3 70/70] selftests/namespace: test listns() pagination Christian Brauner
2025-10-27 14:10 ` [PATCH v3 00/70] nstree: listns() Jeff Layton
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