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From: Ido Schimmel <idosch@nvidia.com>
To: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	tom@herbertland.com, justin.iurman@gmail.com
Cc: Justin Iurman <justin.iurman@gmail.com>,
	kuba@kernel.org, edumazet@google.com, dsahern@kernel.org,
	tom@herbertland.com, willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com,
	pabeni@redhat.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v2] ipv6: Implement limits on extension header parsing
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2026 16:17:14 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260426131714.GA180947@shredder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <90c7de29-2641-413d-9d5f-5eb323cf875c@iogearbox.net>

On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 12:38:31PM +0200, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> On 4/25/26 12:19 PM, Justin Iurman wrote:
> > I've given it a lot of thought. I came to the conclusion that we
> > should use a hard-coded value here as well (just like we did for
> > 076b8cad77aa, with the same logic), not a sysctl. IMO, the main
> > reason is that it provides as is a suitable security fix to be
> > backported, i.e., the max value is the max number of EHs allowed by
> > RFC 8200, Section 4.1. Also, we remain consistent with
> > draft-iurman-6man-eh-occurrences (I think Tom is about to send a
> > revision of the series soon for net-next). What this series does is
> > not only enforcing ordering, but also verifying the specific number
> > of occurrences for each type of Extension Header. Which is totally
> > compatible with what this patch does, i.e., limiting the total
> > number of Extension Headers (regardless of their types) to 8. I
> > guess what I'm trying to say is that it seems like a good
> > plan/compromise and that the aforementioned series would build
> > perfectly on top of this fix.
> 
> Initially, I had a hard-coded constant (when it was still 32), but Eric's comment
> was to rather go with a sysctl, such that if someone unexpectedly complains, then
> there is still a chance for that person to fix it up via sysctl without having to
> rebuild the kernel. I'm okay either way, but presumably given we're now being more
> "aggressive" into lowering the default to 8 rather than 32 then having such a fall-
> back is probably better.

I also think that 32 without a sysctl knob is fine (just so that we have
some upper bound), but if we go with a sysctl then let's make sure that
it's compatible with Tom's series [1] (I assume he is going to send a
new version).

AFAICT it's possible to create conflicting configuration with both
sysctls (e.g., "enforce_ext_hdr_order" is set to 1 and
"max_ext_hdrs_number" configured to less than 8). The documentation
should make the relation between both sysctls clear to users. It can
also mention that "max_ext_hdrs_number" might be useful when users are
forced to turn "enforce_ext_hdr_order" off when dealing with hosts that
send extension headers in an unexpected order. That way, they still have
an upper bound on the maximum number of extension headers.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20260314175124.47010-1-tom@herbertland.com/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-04-26 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-25  7:55 [PATCH net v2] ipv6: Implement limits on extension header parsing Daniel Borkmann
2026-04-25 10:19 ` Justin Iurman
2026-04-26 10:38   ` Daniel Borkmann
2026-04-26 10:56     ` saeed bishara
2026-04-26 13:17     ` Ido Schimmel [this message]
2026-04-26 15:47       ` Justin Iurman

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