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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Simon Schippers <simon.schippers@tu-dortmund.de>
Cc: willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com, jasowang@redhat.com,
	andrew+netdev@lunn.ch, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com,
	kuba@kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com, eperezma@redhat.com,
	leiyang@redhat.com, stephen@networkplumber.org, jon@nutanix.com,
	tim.gebauer@tu-dortmund.de, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v10 4/4] tun/tap & vhost-net: avoid ptr_ring tail-drop when a qdisc is present
Date: Wed, 6 May 2026 18:28:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260506181909-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260506141033.180450-5-simon.schippers@tu-dortmund.de>

On Wed, May 06, 2026 at 04:10:33PM +0200, Simon Schippers wrote:
> This commit prevents tail-drop when a qdisc is present and the ptr_ring
> becomes full. Once an entry is successfully produced and the ptr_ring
> reaches capacity, the netdev queue is stopped instead of dropping
> subsequent packets. If no qdisc is present, the previous tail-drop
> behavior is preserved.
> 
> If producing an entry fails anyways due to a race, tun_net_xmit() drops
> the packet. Such races are expected because LLTX is enabled and the
> transmit path operates without the usual locking.
> 
> The __tun_wake_queue() function of the consumer races with the producer
> for waking/stopping the netdev queue, which could result in a stalled
> queue. Therefore, an smp_mb__after_atomic() is introduced that pairs
> with the smp_mb() of the consumer. It follows the principle of store
> buffering described in tools/memory-model/Documentation/recipes.txt:
> 
> - The producer in tun_net_xmit() first sets __QUEUE_STATE_DRV_XOFF,
>   followed by an smp_mb__after_atomic() (= smp_mb()), and then reads the
>   ring with __ptr_ring_produce_peek().
> 
> - The consumer in __tun_wake_queue() first writes zero to the ring in
>   __ptr_ring_consume(), followed by an smp_mb(), and then reads the queue
>   status with netif_tx_queue_stopped().
> 
> => Following the aforementioned principle, it is impossible for the
>    producer to see a full ring (and therefore not wake the queue on the
>    re-check) while the consumer simultaneously fails to see a stopped
>    queue (and therefore also does not wake it).
> 
> Benchmarks:
> The benchmarks show a slight regression in raw transmission performance
> when using two sending threads. Packet loss also occurs only in the
> two-thread sending case; no packet loss was observed with a single
> sending thread.
> 
> Test setup:
> AMD Ryzen 5 5600X at 4.3 GHz, 3200 MHz RAM, isolated QEMU threads;
> Average over 50 runs @ 100,000,000 packets. SRSO and spectre v2
> mitigations disabled.
> 
> Note for tap+vhost-net:
> XDP drop program active in VM -> ~2.5x faster; slower for tap due to
> more syscalls (high utilization of entry_SYSRETQ_unsafe_stack in perf)
> 
> +--------------------------+--------------+----------------+----------+
> | 1 thread                 | Stock        | Patched with   | diff     |
> | sending                  |              | fq_codel qdisc |          |
> +------------+-------------+--------------+----------------+----------+
> | TAP        | Received    | 1.132 Mpps   | 1.133 Mpps     | +0.1%    |
> |            +-------------+--------------+----------------+----------+
> |            | Lost/s      | 3.765 Mpps   | 0 pps          |          |
> +------------+-------------+--------------+----------------+----------+
> | TAP        | Received    | 3.857 Mpps   | 3.905 Mpps     | +1.2%    |
> |            +-------------+--------------+----------------+----------+
> | +vhost-net | Lost/s      | 0.802 Mpps   | 0 pps          |          |
> +------------+-------------+--------------+----------------+----------+
> 
> +--------------------------+--------------+----------------+----------+
> | 2 threads                | Stock        | Patched with   | diff     |
> | sending                  |              | fq_codel qdisc |          |
> +------------+-------------+--------------+----------------+----------+
> | TAP        | Received    | 1.115 Mpps   | 1.092 Mpps     | -2.1%    |
> |            +-------------+--------------+----------------+----------+
> |            | Lost/s      | 8.490 Mpps   | 359 pps        |          |
> +------------+-------------+--------------+----------------+----------+
> | TAP        | Received    | 3.664 Mpps   | 3.549 Mpps     | -3.1%    |
> |            +-------------+--------------+----------------+----------+
> | +vhost-net | Lost/s      | 5.330 Mpps   | 832 pps        |          |
> +------------+-------------+--------------+----------------+----------+
> 
> Co-developed-by: Tim Gebauer <tim.gebauer@tu-dortmund.de>
> Signed-off-by: Tim Gebauer <tim.gebauer@tu-dortmund.de>
> Signed-off-by: Simon Schippers <simon.schippers@tu-dortmund.de>
> ---
>  drivers/net/tun.c | 25 +++++++++++++++++++++++--
>  1 file changed, 23 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/net/tun.c b/drivers/net/tun.c
> index fc358c4c355b..d9ffbf88cfd8 100644
> --- a/drivers/net/tun.c
> +++ b/drivers/net/tun.c
> @@ -1018,6 +1018,7 @@ static netdev_tx_t tun_net_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev)
>  	struct netdev_queue *queue;
>  	struct tun_file *tfile;
>  	int len = skb->len;
> +	int ret;
>  
>  	rcu_read_lock();
>  	tfile = rcu_dereference(tun->tfiles[txq]);
> @@ -1072,13 +1073,33 @@ static netdev_tx_t tun_net_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev)
>  
>  	nf_reset_ct(skb);
>  
> -	if (ptr_ring_produce(&tfile->tx_ring, skb)) {
> +	queue = netdev_get_tx_queue(dev, txq);
> +
> +	spin_lock(&tfile->tx_ring.producer_lock);
> +	ret = __ptr_ring_produce(&tfile->tx_ring, skb);
> +	if (!qdisc_txq_has_no_queue(queue) &&
> +	    (__ptr_ring_produce_peek(&tfile->tx_ring) || ret)) {
> +		netif_tx_stop_queue(queue);
> +		/* Paired with smp_mb() in __tun_wake_queue() */
> +		smp_mb__after_atomic();
> +		if (!__ptr_ring_produce_peek(&tfile->tx_ring))
> +			netif_tx_wake_queue(queue);
> +	}
> +	spin_unlock(&tfile->tx_ring.producer_lock);
> +

There's a weird corner case here when tx_queue_len is 0
but a qdisc has been configured - it looks like that
currently it just drops all packets, with this change,
the qdisc will get stuck permanently.

I suspect just checking tx_ring.size should fix it.
Or if you feel adventurous, change return code for __ptr_ring_produce
to distinguish between "no ring" and "no space".


> +	if (ret) {
> +		/* This should be a rare case if a qdisc is present, but
> +		 * can happen due to lltx.
> +		 * Since skb_tx_timestamp(), skb_orphan(),
> +		 * run_ebpf_filter() and pskb_trim() could have tinkered
> +		 * with the SKB, returning NETDEV_TX_BUSY is unsafe and
> +		 * we must drop instead.
> +		 */
>  		drop_reason = SKB_DROP_REASON_FULL_RING;
>  		goto drop;
>  	}
>  
>  	/* dev->lltx requires to do our own update of trans_start */
> -	queue = netdev_get_tx_queue(dev, txq);
>  	txq_trans_cond_update(queue);
>  
>  	/* Notify and wake up reader process */
> -- 
> 2.43.0


  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-06 22:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-06 14:10 [PATCH net-next v10 0/4] tun/tap & vhost-net: apply qdisc backpressure on full ptr_ring to reduce TX drops Simon Schippers
2026-05-06 14:10 ` [PATCH net-next v10 1/4] tun/tap: add ptr_ring consume helper with netdev queue wakeup Simon Schippers
2026-05-06 22:18   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-05-07  6:21     ` Simon Schippers
2026-05-06 14:10 ` [PATCH net-next v10 2/4] vhost-net: wake queue of tun/tap after ptr_ring consume Simon Schippers
2026-05-06 14:10 ` [PATCH net-next v10 3/4] ptr_ring: move free-space check into separate helper Simon Schippers
2026-05-06 14:10 ` [PATCH net-next v10 4/4] tun/tap & vhost-net: avoid ptr_ring tail-drop when a qdisc is present Simon Schippers
2026-05-06 22:28   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2026-05-06 22:56     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-05-07  6:32       ` Simon Schippers
2026-05-07 15:19         ` Simon Schippers

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