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From: Oscar Maes <oscmaes92@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, edumazet@google.com, pabeni@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 2/2] pcnet32: switch to napi_alloc_skb() and napi_gro_receive()
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2026 18:37:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260602163756-oscmaes92@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4b5bc4b7-9921-42ac-bf87-a5009f561443@lunn.ch>

On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 10:09:44PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 06:51:40PM +0200, Oscar Maes wrote:
> > On Thu, May 28, 2026 at 12:12:10PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > On Thu, 28 May 2026 19:05:10 +0200 Oscar Maes wrote:
> > > > On Thu, May 28, 2026 at 08:07:48AM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 28 May 2026 16:28:51 +0200 Oscar Maes wrote:  
> > > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 08:45:28AM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:  
> > > > > > Intel x86  
> > > > > 
> > > > > LOL. Please. Which _hardware_ platform.
> > > > > Or to ask more directly - is it QEMU.  
> > > > 
> > > > It was indeed tested on QEMU.
> > > > Either way, the performance measurements were just a sanity check.
> > > > Changing the code to use the modern API is just better.
> > > 
> > > Please don't waste our time with optimizations to unused code.
> > 
> > It's not unused code. VMware emulates this device by default in some cases.
> > I've encountered it when installing QubesOS in vmware which is based on
> > relatively modern Linux.
> 
> There is a saying: If it is not broken, don't fix it.
> 
> "Changing the code to use the modern API is just better" if not a good
> enough reason on its own. Using older APIs does not mean it is
> broken. It does not need fixing. Some percentage of changes like this
> break stuff.  We Reviewers/Maintainers need to look closely at such
> changes and decide if it does actually break stuff. And we want to
> know what the return on investment is? I would much rather spend my
> time reviewing new drivers for hardware which currently does not have
> a driver.
> 
> So, if you say something like: I'm using this driver daily for X. I've
> spent some time optimising it, and with this change, my use case gets
> a 10% increase in performance. Here are my numbers....
> 
> That gives us a better feeling that you have extensively tested this,
> so it is less likely you have broken something. You can also show
> there is a real improvement. So the change is actually worth while.
> 
> 	Andrew
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Fair enough, I appreciate the input.
This change isn't a big deal to me, so I guess we can drop it.
I'll make sure to keep your advice in mind for future patches.

      reply	other threads:[~2026-06-02 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-25 12:54 [PATCH net-next v2 0/2] pcnet32: switch to napi_alloc_skb() and napi_gro_receive() Oscar Maes
2026-05-25 12:54 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/2] pcnet32: stop holding device spin lock during napi_complete_done Oscar Maes
2026-05-25 13:53   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-05-25 15:46   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-25 12:54 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/2] pcnet32: switch to napi_alloc_skb() and napi_gro_receive() Oscar Maes
2026-05-25 15:45   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-28 14:28     ` Oscar Maes
2026-05-28 15:07       ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-28 17:05         ` Oscar Maes
2026-05-28 19:12           ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-31 16:51             ` Oscar Maes
2026-05-31 20:09               ` Andrew Lunn
2026-06-02 16:37                 ` Oscar Maes [this message]

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